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we need a well skilled outside running/linking player with 1st class footy smarts I really dont care who that is....just get someone to start straightening out this yo yo midfield

This ^^^^^^^^ (agree with rest also ...but especially the AGENDA issue)

Goschs is effectively by a road in the middle of nowhere. Yarra Park IS the MCG...the home of Football....our home. Despite only being a kilometre or so apart they are worlds apart. Only a diehard D will ever go to Goschs....no one else cares or knows. Family day is often at Luna Park or somewhere kiddy friendly. The club obviously dont think that much of Goschs either. There's no sense of belonging...on the south side of swan st.

The location of the training base is irrelevant to just about every point youve chosen to go with regarding this topic. Its a choice of locale to do a job and speak to the clubs heritage and bithplace. Ppl dont follow a club because of where it trains...not as such. Jolimont IS a pretty accessible place. There are more points of travel embarkation than that that might access the world at Richmond alone. A home for the club is for the entirety of the club...admin and Football . As to the idea of recognition there could be generations that grow up noticing a football club next to the G...not of yellow and black lineage but flying a Red and Blue flag right next to the home of footy. Would never happen across the road.

Something , i at least , always keep in mind with CW is she has deep family links across this game.She feels the 'wronging' that's supposedly been endured and whenever possible has a sly dig in retaliation. Its a shame as she does often have an interesting insight. I just find myself often questioning her motive or cause celebre.

She can be such a nasty vile thing at times

havent seen a min of this blokes game but the reviews etc suggest he might well grow into a KPB ..He HAS the physical attributes where as neither Lever or Pig are geared that way. If Lever can be re-released back to what he does super well then we might be getting somewhere

Be very VERY surprised if this lad goes anywhere. Too important to Collingwood's list...too important to their brand etc The argy bargy of 'negotiation' will eventually come to a ...dare I say....happy ending. North and Aints will STRUGGLE to land anyone...to many other BETTER destinations out there.

anything above tracks is a curiosity of sorts.. reminds me a little of how it works in China where NO ONE owns the land but they might own whats on it...and have the right by a lease to have it there. My understanding is you can buy air space but NOT above tracks...there it is a lease...invariably 99 years. The chattels are yours in the normal commercial manner...so YOU reap any benefit other than the outgoing of the air-lease This is NO reason not to consider this scenario.

We win at Etihad.... recovery a tad better too

The man knows how to handle a club....

Taking a positive view ... it's an opportunity to rejig that areavof the park. Possibly make less restrictively formal in setout...introduce a copse or two...really green it up. Currently the swathes of carpark lawn are mundane and underutilised.

Another thought....put car parking under the new oval. Why use valuable leasable/ usable building space ?

As part of the beautification and making the new oval meld into its hosting environs plant lots of trees of suitable types to encircle the grassed surface...giving the new ground a permanent image of being guarded and watched simultaneously. How many trees got knocked for Tennis ? Its not like theyd need to take out that many. The new ' Forrest' will compensate

We share aami Its notlike we can use it whenever the lads want. This has at time needed players to find their own facilities to do out of session work. NOT under the watch of our med/fitness guts. Amateur hour really. Time to leave motel8 for the Hilton

A very fav film btw Im sure folk will find the place without too much difficulty... It'll be right next to some other ground of note ?

Imho the MFC will and should care less about pandering to the whim of a few hundred occasional spectators. Thats not how you go about a business case for the establishment of a world class facility thats 99% about use by and of a club, its admin, players and coaches. Its about what provides the best outcome for the club in the manner IT will use it.

You're not going to get much closer to the Top end of Town....than Yarra Park. Location.. location..and opportunities.

We could have the MCG And the MFG Big G ...little G ( Apologies to Suess (

So to those that would consider the location of the new facilities , if Yarra Park ...next to the G ...a bit far...how do you go game day ? ?

Goschs paddock...on the wrong side of the road ..right next to lovely healthy Punt Road...lost among codes.. no mans land Or Smack bang next to the G....THE MCG......a small club hit to the new facilities from our ancestral home...the MCC. Why is this even a discussion... Make it so...

Im a bit lost here...what real loss to parkland ? In a fashion youll have some rubbishy grassed area not reall usuable for much other than parkibg cars....being replaced by an area of grass usuable by club and community alike. The grass will still be green...no ?

A number of elements come to play among all this... looking on as a spectator : Almost funny anyone would see 6 Stories as a hindrance . Just look around....and up ?? The powers that be at the MFC seem very tight lipped these days. I'd be surprised if they relaxed the reigns on this getting out save they thought it appropriately progressed. Further to my noting a trend to explore the construction above tracks I seem to recall somewhere ( happy to be corrected ) that for whatever reason planning permission above tracks is not a local jurisdiction.i.e Spring St can approve with stroke of a pen. For the Greenies i propose that having built our facilities that Punt Rd be razed to the ground and rehabilitated to urban Forrest...seems only fair. Again i think the proposal has merit...legs ? ?? Jolimont might need recasting as Demonland ???

Alp controlled by the ALP Thanks for clarifying that.

Governments seem very keen on selling the air space above rail these days. I like the gist of this proposal. Puts us backnear where we belong. Go you good Dees