Everything posted by beelzebub
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
strangely thats exactly what Roos discussed. Its about a club
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
My understanding is the new elgibility guidelines ( yet to be sanctioned by the AFLPA ) would have Jesse as an RFA at next seasons end. Happy to be corrected on that.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
I think it was actually Roos who suggested you ought to try to get an expected free agent to sign a year out...or indeed look to make the best of the situation with a view to trade. He was just being very matter of fact if recall this correctly. Whilst I concede Moonies acknowledgement that Hogan owes nothing more than already agreed to it would be a prudent course of action to protect our ( MFC ) position Ive no problem at all with the notion as outlined by X Flash My focus is on us winning a flag...and who knows what might happen still this year... But after that the EOS circus I think will throw up quite a few situations and offers that are going to test the mettle of clubs. Ours being one
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
maybe move this thread to the delicatessen ?
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
if a medium sized forward structure.. and should Hogan not be on deck (just like now ) ...or in the deck ..it ( as unlikely as maybe ) B: Jetta - O Mac - Hibberd HB: Salem - Lever - Lewis C Jones - Brayshaw - Viney HF: Petracca - T-Mac - ANB F: vandenBerg - Weideman - Melksham Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Harmes I/c: Spargo - Hannan - Frost - Fritsch
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BRAYDON PREUSS
The club must have a plan. They won't go to him with a rubbish offer...our track record of recent times suggests otherwise. I'm bloody curious.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BRAYDON PREUSS
Soooooo....if we're sniffing around...then what are the dominoes ? Watson....the list is afoot !!
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BRAYDON PREUSS
Playing two rucks ??? Is this a new thing ? Back to the future
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
not sure Demons listen to him....bit of history there I believe
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BRAYDON PREUSS
F**k Carlton
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BRAYDON PREUSS
we really need a Hmmmmm emoji Hmmmmm....interesting, bye bye Filopovic ???
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
@binman...its not that anyone offered ridiculous Coin WILL move...but that they might where before it wasnt an option. Life....money....stuff happens
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Totally agree Moonie .It's the job of list managers to be vigilant. They work ( hopefully ) year round , compiling scouting reports, keeping an ear to the wall of the world of movement etc. It's the job of list managers to live among scenarios and what-ifs. We're fortunate to have a good crew in that department now. Id be aghast if they were not working the abacus and ouija board of possibilities. In Taylor and Co I trust
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Bernie Vince Retires
Hopefully the future is full of little Bernies and Bernadettes !!
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
That seems reasonable. I dont think anyone is suggesting ad hoc pawning of the lad. Of course it all falls under 'what if " that said point one :1. If another club WILL offers big money to Jesse: point 2 is the default. Again I cant see the club initiating anything....why would it...it can only unsettle things and cost a lot of money...BUT.... things CAN change, and then one thing acts as a catalyst. But essentially NC...youre just describing the generic basis of trade week....Sometimes things happen ...or not. Yes its speculation . Wild ?? I dont see it as terribly far fetched .
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
exactly...as mentioned above The suitor often needs to outbid the resident club.... thats how players get interested. It might also be said it is sometimes when clubs get interested. Im sure right at the moment things are relatively normal...and then the circus comes to town.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
We seem to play better with only 2 big KPF in the arc....it declutters
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
What am I refusing to concede ? He may not go home. He might. Until it's over it ain't over. We /you/ anyone can't debate the merits or even likelihood of an offer(s) until they surface. They aren't going to surface until we finish with finals ( with flag ) There are a number of different realities in footy. The h/a season. Finals.. Trade/draft circus... preseason . Each has it's own climate and peculiarities. Those most left of field environment I would suggest is trade week. If Jesse stays ..all well and good but exactly where and how he plays is a , imho, a vexed question. If he goes... again all well and good...what do we get. Who here would seriously bet their house he stays ? Brave
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Bernie Vince Retires
Bernie Bernie Bernie... What a bugger to not go out in style. Thanks for your efforts , contributions and leadership. A Demon champion.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Johnno suggests no so much doesn't....just not to right spots. Than in itself might cause him to be ignored as mentioned by another.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
Funny how many don't see this...we stop bombing relentlessly...and efficiency to goal increases. It brings into question the whole fwd structure and how we play. This in turn raises the notion of who plays where. Hogan may be very good but he may not be the best solution. Doesn't surprise me some can't decipher the difference.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
my there are some pompous among us. close all threads then What comical arrogance Careful wearing those Emperor's clothes there ....
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
The seeds are there because they are there. You can glibly deny it til the cows come home. A thread on anyone isn't warranted. Nice deflection. I don't attempt to paint all with one brush as you would.
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Farewell Jesse Hogan
A trade of Hogan ,though possibly unlikely , is however possible. The seeds have been around since he began his AFL career. There are many aspects to this. One I find bemusing is the dismissal , abjectly, of an offer that has yet to be tabled. Yes talks do go on out in the 'non-official' world. Often theyre to gauge the market. But like a real estate auction is often doesn't get real ( or even start ) til it's almost over . Of course no one is going to say anything other than a straight-bat reply. Nothing may eventuate but the merits and such are still valid questions. May the righteous bang their drums ( gives them something to play with )
- Sam Weideman