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Demonland.. For every response there is at least one equal and opposite retort

An excellent article by Tim Lane The AFL Commission needs to deal in fact. Two facts to be precise. As you may or may not get behind the paywall, probably the most poignant of all points is that which many here have been saying for a long while; The Charlie is about the Best and Fairest.. Tim puts it as : "The first is the description of the fundamental criteria designed to determine the outcome of the game's most coveted individual honour. The Brownlow Medal is an award for the 'best' and the 'fairest' player in each year. The time-honoured matter of 'fairest' continues to be treated with sufficient seriousness by the AFL that a player who is suspended – even for one week – due to an offence committed in that season, is automatically rendered ineligible for the award. Which you'd think locks the gate on a player hit with a two-year suspension for an 'unfairness' violation. " Having already noted that suspension will negate your ability to win the Brownlow , and that this can be as a result of a less than conscious felony of the game then surely you have to treat being in breach of Anti_Doping in the same light/ "Well, 'fair' has two relevant meanings. The first connotes to playing within the rules, and here – many would argue – the Essendon star has long been beyond reproach. He has always appeared to be a fair and honourable footballer. He has, nevertheless, found himself in breach of the WADA code. It's the second meaning of 'fair', though, which unambiguously trips Watson up. For this meaning relates to competing with one's rivals on a level playing field. Athletes who dope, or who are doped – even if unconsciously – can't possibly claim that they competed in a way that was fair to their rivals. Put simply, if a player is found to have been in breach of the WADA code, he is adjudged to have gained an unfair advantage. Intent doesn't come into it." I shan't quote the entire article but he does make an interesting argument. I would however wish to point out to Mr Lane that Jobe Watson has indeed been found guilty of NOT playing within the rules. The issue of the Brownlow does indeed not require 'intent". I would think though there is sufficient evidence to show that the 34 did indeed intend to flout the rules. Any which way. I do concur Mr Lane. The AFL has no real decision to make. Its really made for them. What is the question is do they have the moral fibre to carry it out?

just read this myself. What a sorry cast of misfits we make, have we no life ? Back to the Gat , its future graveky uncertain. Whelan waits no doubt

can you arrange for that please

He should...SHOULD view it as whilst under investigation, even when THE judgement was given as an appropriate time to offer it back (without prejudice or admissions ) pending final outcome. But, hey hes just another druggie in Sport with no scruples.

what....cant add 2 and 2 by now a person with honour would already have handed it back and humbly apologised !!! if cleared , could have it back. hasnt occured therefore....

Watson imho has no integrity at all. Should he hand it back it most likely will be as a result of the AFL giving him a heads up ( as is their style) and saving himself further embarassment. Apples dont fall far from trees.

must be the 7th glass >>>>>> Snooze ..Zzzzzzzzz

5th glass ????

up here, just as bent as ever; bananas too pineapples coming into ripeness ? all rather pleasant really

would be poignant and catalytic should even one Brownlow winner take this stance and call the AFL to task. I would hope at least one might.

probably would have been a better strategy lol. Still a couple of winners including last race brought the days spending to a minimum. a pleasant day

sad sack ! lol

speaking of qld and bananas. Am off to Caloundra for the races today. Any tips ???

wada over rules afl rules , simple

a sports lawyer huh. Doesnt have much grasp of the rules !!! Maybe its Mabo..

were they Bostonians?

epedience can open up other opportunities whilst time exists. we're not finished yet imho

there's always the Rookies !!!

let's be

we are now a football team relying less on the magical maybe out one of raw kids and focusing on ready to go types for TODAY. Tomorrow will be fine. Welcome Michael

I have faith in the club ( these days ) there'll be a rationale to proceedings

I suspect Michael either comes to us, or stays.

first rule of trade club... whatever ought to be the first and simplest trade will invariably go down to the wire and sometimes fail I dont think this will quite but a lot to go under bridges I think before its crystal clear and signed.

Galbally : No legal route for Jobe to retain Brownlow (i'd link but i cant to the article in The Age ) none the less, the gist is....the jig is up Watson. Even a leading silk says there's no wriggle room for the AFL. Hand it back Jobe and you just might have a miniscule amount of integrity left.. Fight on...and yo are what you are.