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Sorry Jaded if I steal your post but these two lines intrigue me What if the result of him leaving...i.e trades etc..Improves the club ?? I ask as Im club first, player afterwards many are/have possibly suggested...we simply have to make the best of a bad situation. I think it's a good situation we can do really well out of. And in doing so Jesse doesnt come off too shabby either granted...I think differently to many

That was indeed my cryptic point ...Cheers

Just out of curiosity Has Hogan..or his management come out to flatly deny any of this ?? discuss

well ... in a fashion, exactly...When its maximum value to both parties..Jess AND US...if we wait..its just Hogan. Thats no sling at him...just a reality

any dealing will address NEEDS and GAPS for NOW... thats the opportunity of this.

well...im not going to say " I didnt see that coming !!" ( this time ) lol

we might be doing the carving

No one's been spooked. This sort of thing happens from a long way back. Dont get suckered in to believing player/manager/club speak during a season. The MFC will know EXACTLY what its doing

well....yes and a few trimmings !!

Now we go from Club/Player Speak....to Talking Turkey !!

Gday Wiseblood...we often dont see eye to eye. Thats part of the wonderful make up of this form...the opportunity to have a different view Whether this finally transpires or not, it in a fashion, simply vindicates the stand some of us had that this was in all likelihood a much better than evens chance of occurring. And should it...what could /would/should we do about it. Some of us were pilloried for even suggesting such a thing . For mine its simply about a very basic maxim.. " never say never ( in this case footy ) " Id agree that some things are beyond 'not-likely' to the point of "forget it" but then a lot in this game falls to the ...."well, let's just wait and see" Should he go it's a very unique opportunity to upgrade some of our stocks. Chances are The winning suitor will pay whatever is required to win the deal. A bit like us and Lever An interesting off season ahead wouldnt you think Go Dees

I reckon there were a few

Good luck Cameron.

repetition possibly...but not irony

Nice over reaction. Suits your stance. Real ironic? Surely you actually mean 'really ironic'. You seem to infer an unreal ironic. Now that's ironic. I get it you're among those that dismiss the notion as wildly heretic. I have no attachment to any player. I'll barrack for them in red and blue, otherwise they're irrelevant. I'm only interested in a good competitive team. That team needs balance , depth , ethics and the right attitude. It must work together as a team and implore the team ideal. I happen to think ( so it's just my opinion I grant ) that we function better without being hogan- centric. He hasn't shown imho the true grit required when face with superior competition. Others on the park do. I'm happy for the club to sort that out as I am for them to entertain offers. I don't really care whether he stays or goes. If he adds to the equation, fine. For mine the values placed upon him are exaggerated. That said I'm more than happy if other teams see greater value in him and offer accordingly.

Really...don't like free discussion eh sponge. Go somewhere else

And I said " he'll be" which infers a distant date. If you want to get pedantic

Thankyou...its valuable context. I dont think anyone really thinks the lad isnt talented. It's a very one sided extrapolation to say he'll be as good as Kennedy. That said it would not surprise me if WCE made a play for him

maybe you might want to study those same statistics closer

Or someone who might drop his head, play for frees, half hearted second efforts and go sookilala if it's not his day. No he doesn't do that all the time...but does often enough for some to take notice Anyone thinking he was the difference yesterday is kidding themselves.

always good to read an individual assessment...i.e not just a sheep Aspects I agree on...some I don't but that in the main is irrelevant as thats just my opinion. Nice to see yours.

Or they could just be in each other's way.

Amazing to see so many starting to wear the colours day to day,...wearing scarves , hats, beanies,. ..jumpers and/or jackets ... And just to do the supermarket shopping or whatever !! Great to see

no wonder it's bloody called Squiggle !!!!