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A trade of Hogan ,though possibly unlikely , is however possible. The seeds have been around since he began his AFL career. There are many aspects to this. One I find bemusing is the dismissal , abjectly, of an offer that has yet to be tabled. Yes talks do go on out in the 'non-official' world. Often theyre to gauge the market. But like a real estate auction is often doesn't get real ( or even start ) til it's almost over . Of course no one is going to say anything other than a straight-bat reply. Nothing may eventuate but the merits and such are still valid questions. May the righteous bang their drums ( gives them something to play with )

I am too....and practically her whole bloody family ( being a mic... it's big lol ) Even worse a b-i-l played for them. Jane....I feel your pain....and share your joy whenever we beat the bastards !!

I fully understand the Vibe, but Mabo I see it all holistically. It's about a team , a club. 160 years young and 54 without a flag. Whatever's best to that end. In that light Jesse may or may not be part of it. In a fashion it's irrelevant. His life is his. I wish him well. Players, coaches , officials come and go. But speaking of pathos, it's us Demon tragics that go the distance irrespective. Should it actually transpire, a trade, I'm sure Hogan will have no compunction donning another jumper. Nor do I. Footy is footy. I still don't understand how discussion of a players merits and worth etc is disrespectful.l

Yep agree.. He has a classically correct kicking action. That goal on a stiff angle was a pearler. The Weidemans have DNA as good kickers

Please...such righteous indignation !! Actually players in the sense of being part of a list are exactly commodities. They are 'bought' "traded' " written down" . You don't like it...fair enough. Don't come the raw prawn though and have it only your way. If you take offence to the way some view the whole shebang you're likely to be offended again. Maybe find a 'nice' thread. I have no disrespect for any player as a person. Nor have I any real interest in them other than as a player. As a player they have their bit to do. They either do it or they don't. That's absolutely fair game for review as in my opinion their place on the list . You probably best steer well away from any List manager's office.

Thankyou ... It's relevant .

Par for the course... unwarranted adjudication.. play through

Please provide a pro forma Love to see it. It's called discussion.

I take it you do ..... Now !! ???

Or counter: Not be truly fit...but come straight in ? Because that happens.

You think Jones...Viney would get dropped ?

Not everyone gets dropped

Stop Making Sense ???

Dr I fear what you prescribe will not be palatable medicine for some ? Talking Heads had a album once , in much of this vein ??

True ...hard....not impossible. Ah well....Wines are happy in cellars ?

He needs to come home me thinks

I enjoy good robust debate. You can identify that by either side proffering their view and furnishing it with something to hang a hat on or viewing what's on the discussion table. And then there's comedy... has its place until it declines into farce.

So you don't know what's out there...or might be...but it can't be any good based on various past trades. Well that ties it all up nicely....for you. I however am prepared to see what transpires. I have no qualms about him being traded if that works for the club. As you like to refer to historical stances then consider many a trade/offer wasn't even penciled in on many occasions prior to the start of the Circus Week. Combine that with some clubs track records of either facilitating trades for others ( clubs)if it benefitted them and the all but total unpredictable theatre that is trade week and it's quite possible a trade might eventuate...if it suited all parties. I for one don't think Hogan and Melbourne are set in concrete. Mine's the straw scenario ? How can I show you that which doesn't exist yet ? Who knows the absolute shape of a trade here ? That doesn't by extrapolation mean one can't. Could Hogan go home ? Of course. Would either WA club take him? In a micro second ( if the deal flew ) Is Jesses next contract with Melbourne ? Quite possibly...not absolutely. Are Hogan and MFC a good fit ? Undoubtedly Is there a better fit ? Stay tuned. Will someone put an offer to Jesse/MFC this EOS ? I'd put money on it.

Your assertion based on what exactly ? Are you privy to the Hogan household ? You a fly on the wall at the club ? Are you prescient to all and any offers yet to materialise ? Quite frankly your stance is an utter nonsense.

What if the trade ISN'T for a forward...but to facilitate a better outcome...even for Jesse ?

Why ?? It's a realistic topic of discussion. Doesn't fit yours or other's narratives, that's fine. Many other threads to join. Why anyone or anything is particularly off limits is beyond me. For sure some subjects might be a nonsense but this isn't one. There's been some interesting and frank discussion.

The better 'one' may indeed be an 'outcome' ...not just player for player.

Of course I wouldn't expect you to comprehend. You probably do the easy crosswords too. We actually play more fluent football without him I'd argue. Just like you the whole thing became too Hogan- centric. Have you read Red Fox ? If not do so...it's about a team orientated bloke that emphasised team play. The abilities of individuals are to be welcomed...but if you suffer the folly of allowing that to dictate the team suffers He knew a thing or two. Again WB...how are we travelling without Hogan ? Dare to answer ?

One of the most ridiculous comments yet. Have you not been paying attention . Many of those 47 were in the bullying games. He kicks very few under pressure against harder opposition. So the value isn't quite what it seems. Of course he's replaceable. We've had to cover him often. We're covering him now. We're traveling ok are we not ? Tmac has kicked more from less games. I'd challenge the veracity of the idea one person replaces another in pure goal kicking. It can be argued a better performing team is less reliant on individual return and more upon what teamwork provides. But still.. even if say Weed stood up for 1 and half goals per game.. that's 30 odd. The likes of Vanders would be good for similar.. there's 60. I fully accept it's all numbers and hypotheticals but then so is much of the hype about Hogan.