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Flabbergasted !!! Well I'll be ....

Reasonable invariably refers to reason. Stupidity is of the stupid. Some can discern. Some just don't like the idea. To them it's unpalatable. That's just preference.

Just highlights the stupidity of that post. Nothing more. There's been for the most a reasonable discussion about the various aspects of Hogan and what might prevail or transpire. None of this has any relevance to another's ridicule.

Cheers.. thanks for clarifying that LH

Then again Mr Pony Man...it would surprise many if the subject was left alone. Someone once suggested....youre only as good as your next game.. That can be expanded upon in many directions...but ultimately its common denominator is what value a player to the team/club....not hypothetically...but really.

A discussion with said PR at the Duke I think it was a number of years back , after he had aired the notion of Free agency and what you ( as a club do to 'contain " it ) held that its not so much a matter of a player proving anything...its about a club KNOWING exactly where it sits in the whole bigger picture. Yo always want to retain your best players but you are always going to see players move around. His thoughts were pretty much simply you get on the front foot and dont wait to be held to ransom as it were. Mr Roos looked at things very holistically...as do I . Again he was very matter of fact. I dont believe he was referring to Hogan at all as that wouldnt have been on the radar back then. It was a generic style discussion. At this moment I insert Jesse into that scenario. I would be very surprised that if Jesse was playing with us next year it wouldnt be on a new contract.

strangely thats exactly what Roos discussed. Its about a club

My understanding is the new elgibility guidelines ( yet to be sanctioned by the AFLPA ) would have Jesse as an RFA at next seasons end. Happy to be corrected on that.

I think it was actually Roos who suggested you ought to try to get an expected free agent to sign a year out...or indeed look to make the best of the situation with a view to trade. He was just being very matter of fact if recall this correctly. Whilst I concede Moonies acknowledgement that Hogan owes nothing more than already agreed to it would be a prudent course of action to protect our ( MFC ) position Ive no problem at all with the notion as outlined by X Flash My focus is on us winning a flag...and who knows what might happen still this year... But after that the EOS circus I think will throw up quite a few situations and offers that are going to test the mettle of clubs. Ours being one

maybe move this thread to the delicatessen ?

if a medium sized forward structure.. and should Hogan not be on deck (just like now ) ...or in the deck ..it ( as unlikely as maybe ) B: Jetta - O Mac - Hibberd HB: Salem - Lever - Lewis C Jones - Brayshaw - Viney HF: Petracca - T-Mac - ANB F: vandenBerg - Weideman - Melksham Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Harmes I/c: Spargo - Hannan - Frost - Fritsch

The club must have a plan. They won't go to him with a rubbish offer...our track record of recent times suggests otherwise. I'm bloody curious.

Soooooo....if we're sniffing around...then what are the dominoes ? Watson....the list is afoot !!

Playing two rucks ??? Is this a new thing ? Back to the future

not sure Demons listen to him....bit of history there I believe

F**k Carlton

we really need a Hmmmmm emoji Hmmmmm....interesting, bye bye Filopovic ???

@binman...its not that anyone offered ridiculous Coin WILL move...but that they might where before it wasnt an option. Life....money....stuff happens

Totally agree Moonie .It's the job of list managers to be vigilant. They work ( hopefully ) year round , compiling scouting reports, keeping an ear to the wall of the world of movement etc. It's the job of list managers to live among scenarios and what-ifs. We're fortunate to have a good crew in that department now. Id be aghast if they were not working the abacus and ouija board of possibilities. In Taylor and Co I trust

Hopefully the future is full of little Bernies and Bernadettes !!

That seems reasonable. I dont think anyone is suggesting ad hoc pawning of the lad. Of course it all falls under 'what if " that said point one :1. If another club WILL offers big money to Jesse: point 2 is the default. Again I cant see the club initiating anything....why would it...it can only unsettle things and cost a lot of money...BUT.... things CAN change, and then one thing acts as a catalyst. But essentially NC...youre just describing the generic basis of trade week....Sometimes things happen ...or not. Yes its speculation . Wild ?? I dont see it as terribly far fetched .

exactly...as mentioned above The suitor often needs to outbid the resident club.... thats how players get interested. It might also be said it is sometimes when clubs get interested. Im sure right at the moment things are relatively normal...and then the circus comes to town.

We seem to play better with only 2 big KPF in the arc....it declutters

What am I refusing to concede ? He may not go home. He might. Until it's over it ain't over. We /you/ anyone can't debate the merits or even likelihood of an offer(s) until they surface. They aren't going to surface until we finish with finals ( with flag ) There are a number of different realities in footy. The h/a season. Finals.. Trade/draft circus... preseason . Each has it's own climate and peculiarities. Those most left of field environment I would suggest is trade week. If Jesse stays ..all well and good but exactly where and how he plays is a , imho, a vexed question. If he goes... again all well and good...what do we get. Who here would seriously bet their house he stays ? Brave

Bernie Bernie Bernie... What a bugger to not go out in style. Thanks for your efforts , contributions and leadership. A Demon champion.