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A problem DV8 is much comment here isn't really invented . It's observational mixed with personal experience and expectations. Trac is own worst enemy. He's been in the system long enough surely to know what's expected. It's not an eternal waiting game.

This is it. You'll get what you will get...but whatever that is it'll help towards another project. This one's rapidly going stale

You can't anymore

I'll make you a deal We can drop both !!

Cut our losses...put the For Sale up !

Well...that might have killed off any momentum in this regard.

The population of Melbourne is irrelevant. These are all AFL affecianados ?? Get real. You need to look at those who are reasonably described as potential MFC members. No success..then even current 45k unsustainable. Win a flag 75-80 K...all those in the woodwork or on the fence.

Might add a bit of that missing dash ?

It's not THAT we lost. It's that we effectively lost it before it started.

Hey diddle diddle that Jack in the middle the bull can't jump, just fall The others just laugh to play this sport and just run away with the ball

Nothing works....on something that doesn't exist

An instant fix for sports induced depression

Seriously...I'm a fossil but understand it. I'll translate for you. Even if things go adversely, if they go counter to hopeful expectations then that good chap Mr Lyon will stand by his fine recruit...irregardless

@Smokey Some might say the apologists are in overdrive

Lurch would be impressed

We'd cruise past 70 I'm not against the notion 58 I just have my understanding of what it would require. We have a little momentum at present. If that falters 70...60...hell 50... becomes a pipe dream. Make at least the prelims this year. 50-55 possible in 2020 Money is hard come by . Too many pressing requirements grabbing it. The diehards are already members. It's the fence sitters who'll be the increase. They have real life demands.

70000 is exactly that, a dream. It would be fantastic. It would put us right up there but unlike the power clubs that practically start the year with enormous numbers and then build, we have had what is now an institutionalised smallish membership. To dramatically change that, to break the crippling chains and create inertia there is only one, I repeat ONE recipe. Sustained success. This needs a very steady climb with no faltering. Irrespective of what many here feel is deserved , in terms of numbers growth, it isn't. We don't deserve increases as such, you earn it. We haven't really earned anything yet.

Not so much wrist slashing...just dismay. A bit like burgers...what you're promised...what you get

And it was worth 4pts They ALL are

Reality check Coach going ok. Still surprises ( good and bad ) Selection. Bizarre. Leaders...saw something I didn't sat. We have much to commend . But that was insipid.. truly I'm not sure anyone is throwing towels in( yet ) but .... We're supposed to be far better than that.

Really ?! I didn't think there was ANY

Yep. A lot we aren't being told here. Not that I'd imagine we would anyway. Both way below par....both have a ....? ..a niggle ! These are both key pivotal players. Something ain't kosher

Is it though....an overreaction ? Before yesterday had you polled here and the general footy populus the result would have been: We're heading >>>>>>>>? like a steam train !! I reckon consensus just got a massive correction. I've seen nothing this year to date which really supports the original notion. Edit..had no idea what you had written @brendan (spooky )

@rjay Will we drop off this year ? Who would have even given an ounce of oxygen to that notion.... before yesterday ?? Such a thought has gone from a figment of imagination to pigment of apprehension !!