beelzebub

So do I. But they command respect

Only half right Port crossed line several times. The AFL..ask...that's fine The limp effort of Dee players and any excuses by club...uh uh... very embarrassing

Yep... Wife getting lippy....??

Shame

Might add a bit of that missing dash ?

Two issues here which Crud Cornes conveniently makes one. 1) legality/illegality if blocking 2) p-weak flying of the flag He's a bozo . Jonas etc were in the wrong However...Gawn had no mates... disgusting.

Look...we all know Cornes is a ........?

I see nothing wrong with a please explain, nothing. I'd be bloody asking why established rules were not enforced too. I do understand your view to giving as good ( if not doubly ) as you get. Am all for that. If you can't muster the 'alpha' stance on game days... don't play. It was quite frankly embarassing to see no-one run shotgun for Max. Pizzweak Melbourne.

It's not THAT we lost. It's that we effectively lost it before it started.

Hey diddle diddle that Jack in the middle the bull can't jump, just fall The others just laugh to play this sport and just run away with the ball

Nothing works....on something that doesn't exist

An instant fix for sports induced depression

Max won't be protected. If we won't do it...why would anyone else ?

Commerce is in simple terms... business Football...a sport. The original ideals of sports was/is the antithesis of Commerce. Sport , ideally is competition of ability. Looking at the rules of the game I don't see money mentioned. Then there's now.

That's an understatement. The metrics that guide the arrogant imbeciles of the AFL have all but nothing to do with the real game, its integrity or spirit. It has everything to do with commerce. That of course is not what the game is about.

It's an utter travesty of common sense and understanding of the game that this numbat is in this job. Even worse he's validated by others at AFL house. Yet we all understand ... Why !!!

Seriously...I'm a fossil but understand it. I'll translate for you. Even if things go adversely, if they go counter to hopeful expectations then that good chap Mr Lyon will stand by his fine recruit...irregardless

@Smokey Some might say the apologists are in overdrive

Lurch would be impressed

We'd cruise past 70 I'm not against the notion 58 I just have my understanding of what it would require. We have a little momentum at present. If that falters 70...60...hell 50... becomes a pipe dream. Make at least the prelims this year. 50-55 possible in 2020 Money is hard come by . Too many pressing requirements grabbing it. The diehards are already members. It's the fence sitters who'll be the increase. They have real life demands.

People in shock.....are often quiet

This IS the crux. No team can afford slow starts now.

70000 is exactly that, a dream. It would be fantastic. It would put us right up there but unlike the power clubs that practically start the year with enormous numbers and then build, we have had what is now an institutionalised smallish membership. To dramatically change that, to break the crippling chains and create inertia there is only one, I repeat ONE recipe. Sustained success. This needs a very steady climb with no faltering. Irrespective of what many here feel is deserved , in terms of numbers growth, it isn't. We don't deserve increases as such, you earn it. We haven't really earned anything yet.

Not so much wrist slashing...just dismay. A bit like burgers...what you're promised...what you get

And it was worth 4pts They ALL are