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I was wondering when the taller defender would show up... must be one of CAC's little surprises )

It would be the smart move without doubt... they seem more blinkered than smart at present..such is life.

well we'll agree there are indeed elements shared by the events and circumstances Do the AFL want a GC team ? YES Doe sit need be the Roos ? NO Do the Roos need to relocate to continue existance ? Now thats the curly one Back to ealrier thoughts..as youve picked up on.. Its that question of a 17th team..was is a Ruse ( Roose ..sic..lol ) or is there a plan B timetable in the AFL little mind to a start update ? we may never know. 17 teams would just stuff it all up again. Id have to sit down and look at it closely but I have the gut feeling 17 teams is a lot more work than the previous 15 effort. 16 is a nice number for even groups and break downs.. even with one less its still works ok ( kinda ) 17...Not as easy !! I stil think its an AFL gambit to coerce rahter than any real desire to actually have 17 teams. The more you look at this the Roos are just not boxing clever. They now have two adversaries.. The AFL and now the Filth. Brayshaw is no match for Eddie. From the stands though that makes for an interesting standoff. May they both suffer in this debacle

No..there are two.. each as its own agenda. There simply are some shared elements. if there was only one there would be no mutually exclusive aspects..

There is no doubt the AFL want another team North and indeed why wouldnt you. The GC is boomsville. I actually think the Roos are mad not to take it up. Talk about 'on a plate' ...sheesh !! But I think the AFL is being as whorishly quick as it can in trying to appease...god knows what. why the rush? They seem sto take forever in all other manners of planning and now they want the Roos to have moved there 5 mins ago !! Yes I think the AFL will have to continue to support the Roos in some manner as long as they remain a viable team (of sorts ) just as they support any team. The Roos are entitled to what ever they get now, surely ? I think the AFL should have been better at coersion instead of offfering some half baked deal whilst holding a big bat behind their backs. All of this seems to be created on the run quite the opposite of past efforts. It irks me that the real winners out of all this may end up being the Filth!! But what really irks me is I cant blame them for being clever. To me if the Roos were even half way realistic..and as aclever as they think they are then surely they could strike a similar if not more atractive deal to that propsed by the Filth. You would think North have first dibs ?? What you have here are a bunch of very impassioned folk who dont want to see their club die yet who are blinded to the cold realities of what IS. This same group who are seemingly myopic to the point that they can not see that dastardly bastard about to streak past them and steal the choccies. There are in realities two issues.. One...a club to be based ( focused) on the Gold Coast. and Two..the ongoing survivial of the Roos. There are some elements which occur in both objectives...and some that dont.

that...or some sort of misguided gambit. Never struck me as the sharpest billiard ball !!

Whilst Rhino I share much of your bemusement regards the "salvation" of the Roos it has to be asked how much of the 100 Million is conditional on various aspects anyway. By many acounts teh AFL hasnt actually got a deal with the GC yet...and yet they spruik it. cart before the horse ?? How much of the so called 100 Million over X years will North get anyway if they were to stil be a club? yes. some is the retirement of debt etc. Some by all accounts is a distributoin of some funds particular to that region etc. I dont think its quite as simple as 10 versus 100. Which raises the whole question of just how real much of the AFL's deal is. however good AFL clubs might be at colouring and 'secribing" their situations I would contend the AFL itself is far more inventive.

I was wondering if the Shed's comments would go unchallenged. Seems PG and Co arent going to be rough shod anylonger. Good for us. Thanks Paul.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/10m-...5321867613.html 10 Million is "loans'...by the five riders to the avoid the apocalypse !! You got to hand it to the never say die attitude of the Shinbonners. I for one really did think they had no option but to go North...or for North.. even more North !! lol You would have to think on this basis that they might just stay. The Sainters look to shore up their position by travellling South, all the way to Frankston town. That has a lot working for them. So what does this all mean when we have Andrew ( I talk before I think ) Demetriou saying ( nay, threatening ) a 17th licence. What really is this extra licence about one wonders? Do the AFL want to expand? I doubt it as 16 works well on many levels. Does teh AFL really want or care if the Kangas go North? I would think only in so much as it will fulfill some backroom deal done some time ago to get another team out of Victoria and into the fastest growing place in all of OZ, yes friends..the Gold Coast. The AFL might just be snookered here. If they dont go ahead with a team in the GC then I would guess much will come "unstuck". So what to we summise to be the real agenda here. ? To help North? I really dont think the AFL culd care two hoots really. If anything the Arden St mob ( kangas..mob...lol ..*sigh* ) are proving to be nothing more than a thorn in the side of the great Autocracy's plans. I have a funny feeling we may incur a bit of a backwash wave through all this. Cooments by "I've got a shed" Jeff will be useful to Demetriou and kind as they look to punnish the infidels. As we are in the same boat we I hate to say it might incur the wrath by association. I hope the powers that be at MFc are waching all this and taking steps. So North get 5 Knights id be happy to find 5 Dragons !! MFc...watch your back.

Thats pretty much the only thing I have agaisnt this jumper. If its not going to utilise a demon then it MUST incorporate the 150 somehow.. I cant beleive they havent. Still the MFC make some very strange decisions. The jumper I dont mind...not rapt in..not fussed either

apparently he has said he wil only play for the Sainters. Not sure how he will sew that one up.

maybe now with the Sainters coming to Frankston he thought, with that haircut , he'd fit right in !!

saw that too...and thought...hmm!!... whats going on here !!

Honestly the way some carry on you'd think it was the end of the world !! Its just a bloody jumper...worn sporadically. Im very surprised the MFc hasnt taken a far more proactie effort with these over all. They can be a great marketing tool. And in a minor way a revenue stream. who cares if we have a different one each year..or each game for that matter ( clash that is ) . IT D O E S N " T MATTER !! ffs im more concerned about what's under the hood rather than the colour of the duco !! ffs Some of you must be the world's snappiest dressers the way ya all carrying on !!! lol

The best idea yet !!! lol

curiously enough I didnt notice the new logo on that new clash jumper !!

I just know i will regret uttering these words..( as many just wont get the context..*sigh* ) but in reality what is lively and happening about our home guernsey ?? its just a jumper we all love.. but theres not a lot happening on it either !! The reality is they could come up with a dozen jumpers and there will always be those that Ok it..and those that nay-say it. Im more concerned with whose wearing them to be honest ...having said that i still reckon the 150 ought to be featured.. but its not.. such if life.. we move on

this is an era of recycling !!!! pmsl

Come on all you knockers...whats so bloody terrible about it, given its function ? The way some are carrying on your think it was black and white !!

I dont mind it.. It only bemuses me that with the opportunity to crow about our anniversary that it doesnt prominantly display the 150. Surely that needs to be everything Melbourne this ( I mean next ) year

What a total w@nk !! honestly.. He's either guilty..or he's not. cant wait to see what they deal out to Pratt !! do we hold our breath ?? Ben is without doubt a total air head.. but he's not actually been convicted of anything.. ( god knows how !! lol )..but we know hes really just a very naughty boy. More fool any club that picks up a 30 yo basket case..but thats another issue. Why did the AFL commission [censored] everyone round for 8 hours when everyone essentially pre-knew the outcome ?? this is just a waste of pixels and bytes.. a total joke from start to finish; such is the way of the AFL !!!

maybe it could look like this ??

talk about al in the family !!! lol Congrats Andy...welcome back to the fold

more like he was shooting for the stars !!!!

Stupid is a Stupid does !!!!!!! Life is like box of bulldogs !!!