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I think Neeta more than deserves to lead the club in its 150th year.. and good on him. what I would like to see as something a little different is a heir apparent to be chose and a sort of mentoring happen next year.. Not co captains per se.. just the Master and Apprentice in a fashion with the chosen one going on solo in 2009 as Captain. This way the new cpatian eases into role and the great Neitz can effectively give one last hurrah as well as imparting what he knows. That would be , to me , a magnificent thing for a captain..a true leader to do. Its what you do in business etc ..why not footy !!

now I think about it with Bode elevated and the others let go there are indeed 4 spots Thanks Nasher !!

to be perfectly hoest Im not sure.. I thought we had a couple of slots open for rookies. it eally comes down to money i think.. others knowing beter may be able to illuminate this for the rest of us

A smart club will never rest on its laurels. Its always looking to replenish and maitain its competetive advantage ( or get one ) . There maybe any number of reasons CAC is considerign moving on.. possibly the lure of his bohood club etc. maybe just more bucks ..who knows. But Bails obviously doesnt want him to go. Im just pleased that despite the outcome that this club will no longer just lets thigs happen to it without makiing some effort to look after its own interests. Hopefully this is THE attitude of the club in all matters ( big hint/nudge to club re 150th thunder and the AFL !! )

wasnt having a go at all..lol.. just curious if yo had any others.. that one just wasnt me.. which is more about me than you ..lol I dont mind seeing some out-there ideas and designs at all !! go for it

yep ...wouldnt mind getting Kangars and letting Wellman loose on him to impart skills and nouse !!

couldnt agree with you more Jaded.. cant say the T is quite me.. but thats just a fuddy duddy speaking.. might go well of a ft young bod !! .. Cool hat though. You re right on with the call of our stuff.. its mainly yucksville.. With some imagination as youve shown a line of apparel could be marketed as just that...apparel. In the same way any sporty type stuff is.. if its got a cool happenig motif and design ..peopel will wear it irriespective of its origins. well done Jaded any more designs ?

all is not lost just yet it seems.. Bailey to fight for CAC !! http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=2...mp;newsId=53914 how good is it to see this club have spirit again !!!!!! Go Bails Go !! Love this guy already

touche !!!! lol :D

dear oh dear.. another one incapable of rationale.. On th elist of team of the Centruty is listed one RDB... some have alluded that Neeta is about to take over the mantle as possibly the best of captains in the modern era Fatty please take no offence but I wasnt even reffering to anything you said.. but I will now you make guesses..and youre wrong.. ..always a bad move to assume isnt it So where is fact wrong..?? The team of the century is strangely enough about a century's worth of players So has Neitz been the best FF ? I would sugest..good...but not best. the best captain ??..again good ..but not best. Nowhere do I infer he's no good..they are your words and you may keep them !!

With all due respect to the lad...how many premierships has Neeta led Melb to ? compared to say one Ronald Dale Barassi ?? History speaks for itself.. mightnt be pretty to all..but its there in balck and white ( or rather red and blue..lol ) All things in perspective...this hasnt exactly been our golden period !!

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/rich...6036893779.html Thanks Craig.. all the best why are you going ? very sorry to see you go :( good luck !!

i concede...its an uphill battle..but this is a city with near 4 million folk a difference of 5-10,000 seems to make a difference .. were talking 1/4 of 1 % I wouldnt say were necessarily tapped just yet Possibly as a start wre talking getting people interested in just coming along to a few games.. geetting interest up.. from acorns ... and so on !! I hate to admit it.. ( is a personal failing ) my own daughter discarded the Dees in favour of the saints years ago ..as , in her words.. they were cool.. she liked the ads.. they were happening, she sees them as relevant.. and she's just a little beside herself that they are coming down to her Frankston. She gladly informed me that only three people in the whole school ( primary) wore a Melbourne jumper on footy friday..Shes 12.. She'll be a Sainter for life now Melbourne supporter future is ( long term) the kids and we are nada to most of them...we have no hook for them So whilst we continue to think its al lbeen done.. then we are doomed to continue as we are. If we want to be relevant to the modern day sports consumer then we need something vastly different happening. We arent trying to preach to the converted... were trying to convert !! Im all for the China initiative... have written as such many times.. Its not so much that advetising doesnt work.. but honestly the last few attempts over the years were either lamentable for their obtuse vagueness or quite honestly a lack of encticement to any passion...They might as well have been selling funerals !! Quite posibly in this day and age .. The net and push advertising might have some results in the right areas, but as a 48 yo fuddy duddy ( though very IT savvy) .. have no interest in facebook etc or the 'popular' places !! Those of you of the 16-25 age group.. what would impress you ? if you had no real knowledge of the MFc what might make you take a second look ? Again I dont think its tapped out...were just not tapping into it the right way !!

its not a whinge..its an xplanation I tell you what... all those that have nothing to add in a construcive maaner to this effort...go stand >>>>>>>>> everyone else who wants to contribute..please go ahead if it only results in one idea coming off to the benefit of the club then its worth the effort ..surely

and thats why Hawthorn and Tigers continue to have such Low memberships huh ?? lol there is far more to all this than simplifying it , but if it works as your rebuttal.. so be it. There are such things as brand awareness and brand reinforcement. Yes..the die hard will renew their memebrships regardless. But its the equivalent of the swinging voter thats up for grabs. there are those that might be contemplating a mebershipfor the fist time. Hey..there always has to be a FIRST time !! Strangely its not necessarily new folk sayinghtis.. some of us have been highlighting our clubs inadequacies in this regard for years.. There is no doubt on filed success helps to steel people towards that decison , but have some of thee other clubs had that much ?? No.. but they know the lessons of marketing. yes the club may have limited resources... so often does many a business thats why the inventive ones getlateral and try to compound any effect of their advertising. Do you think Branson always had squillions ?? NO.. but he was very clever at leveredging any publicity he got ...or made !! We have OUR 150th coming up...but youd never really know it as the MFc has all but allowed the AFL to hijack it. Littel things liek possibly showing a public face to its annoyance etc would get free publicity, help bolster the image of a club prepared to stand up for itself etc. This when combined with normal avenues of advertising and publicity help show a no nonsense attitude , soemthting many might like to associate with etc. mbership and promotion are not sjust about the obvious things. There are many peripheral elements which go towards all of this. But hey we can all sit back and roll out the tired old excuses of why we are so good at NOT doing something.. or we can try others. Im all for at least firstly suggesting ideas, looking at them and possibly trying new tacts. Thosee that want to survive evolve !! those that dont become extinct. where would yo uhave us?

yep, all and sundry ...throw all things up.. Thats what brainstorming is about.. I think we all just want a better result for the club.. thats the imortnat thing...who what or why...not so much relevant.. So all ideas to the fore

fair enough...not overly fussed how or when we get them....we just need some ( more than one ) as likely only one will rise to the top as they say!

cant say I am very much for this game . Firstly the AFL is stealing our thunder about th e150th.. and I notice the deafening silence so far from our illustrious club about this. Its a trumped up exhibition game, thats all...the down side is going to be any injuries sustained by it to the member teams as well as any impact on those players going into the next round etc. The only winner really is the AFL and I could give two figs about them. Personally quite happy for NO Demons to participate....rather win a home and away game !!!! they matter

You have your thoughts I have mine.. you think 25 bucks here or there makes all the dif huh ? you have to get ground swell..you have to get product/brand recognition. we have NONE !! Its not just about a billboard..its about getting an 'act ' together, promoting a brand so its deirable, recognisable and worth the effort to support. In a bizzarre way its almost nothing about football other than where the club sits in the grand scheme of things. Brands such as Virgin really have nothing to do with their various industries as much as they do with the way peopel perceive them. Melbourne nees to promote it self in a a manner that a possible suitor would feel left out if they didnt get on board not as some desperado glad to get anything. If you the club doesnt get this,..then it wont get anything out of positioning and promotion Brands like Nike Coke.. Sony.. etc are all about the attitude and what it mean to allign oneself with them, thats why stuff is bought. Billboards are a tool... a means..not an end. Who doesnt remember the Windsor Smith billboards and the publicity they generated. All these things have to be co -ordinated in order to raise the recogition of Melbourne(fc) it has to be redeveloped as more than a football team it has to be portrayed as a sporting lifestyle... you are a DEMON !! etc.. its a dog eat dog world now for the consumer dollar and we nee to be smart. You cant do it liek it wa in the 70's 80's. etc. we have to make ourselves very much part and parcel of the very fabric about being a Melbournian ! Some may call this all a giant w@nk !! but this is how business is done at this level. if you want to be a player....you have to rise to this level...or perish!! In 15-20 years time there may well be only 4 Melb based Afl teams.. we need to ensure we are THE one !!

all jockularity aside.. please.. people post some ideas.. its not about validity, jsut some simple ideas..na d then I'l compile them and forward to the powers that be. Just throw up whatever you think might be a reasonable thought. lets see if we cant get 50 ideas ...then let the club sort chaff from wheat

well its intersting seeing the results to date. Over half agree with me that we will finish somewhere 5-8 and despite many's a derisive gaze I think thats reasonable. Im not expecting our new bies to rush out and change the face of the game I am expecting however that what we would consider our proper starting 22 to be able to play a decent game of footy With new impetus from above and I can only hope a sound game plan we ought to be back at least to where we expected to be this year... a fair dinkum contender in the finals..and that puts us 5-8. Quite frankly i dont understand anyones view that we are bottom eight..but fair enough .., its an opinion This year is surely an abberation.. we arent really a 14th place team going forward Im thinking a couple of years maybe 5-8 before seriously stamping our pedigree in the top 4 , and doing so for a few years

so rhino...you Psychic...you KNOW what we all do ?? Always so ready o ad glib snide comments.. dont see any contributions here from you!! how about it... easy ... put up or shut up!! happy to grab the ideas form here and forward on !!

yes they are great things.. but they are long time coming items !! We need to be around for them to have any effect. Somethings need to be more immediate. Heres a simple idea we'll have an online brainstorming try and come up with at least 5 things the club could do to raise awareness intially and possibly inprove memebership and bums on seats etc. 1) co opt the MCC ( Melbourne City Council ) with our illustious #1 member to display at various times through year a sereies of flags etc usitilising the various banner poles through out the city...as they do for variosu other things. 2) A billboard as you leave Tulla.. "welcome to Melbourne , Victoria . Home to eth eMFc demons.. proud originators and participants to AFL football for 150 years 3) A bloody billboard on Swan Street proclaiming that bit of dirt as the New home to the Mfc 4) A statewide competition through Primary schools .. maybe an essay or project on AFL footy ansd how Melbourne has been part of it. Winning schools get MFc providing clinics ..and other stuff.. footies.. jumpers.. even free Junior memberships and possibly a senior one to accompany winner to games 5) we are heading into Christmas...the biggest spending time of year.. lets promote a special xmas membership package.. No idea what it might be.. but thats the detail not the idea.. Get in peoples head s now.. NOW !! come on 5 mor from others.. we can combine them all and pass on to the Club !! Thats INNITATIVE !!! B)

Well its in his court then. Sometimes you can benefit from another clubs frustration...sometimes you can fail to heed coomon sense. where would you put him then? pocket or flank ? and possibly at who's expense? The list is on verge of being 'crowded' ..in a good way !!

I'll tell you what Nasher...when the clun gets iuts act together then we'l l shut up !! til then the club has a long LONG way to go inlearning how to promote itself.. on a scale of 1-10..it'd be lucky to scrape ina 1 if the Mfc were in charge of promoting a product for me..Id sack then in a heartbeat its all fine and marvy to come out with glib comments like "spouting [censored] "... but if we WERE doing a grand slap up job then there would be very little tocomplainabout....however the total opposite is true. or perhaps yo can outline how fantantic we ( Mfc) are at promotig this club. this brand etc.. we've got the most unique circumstances on a plate.. and its all but going down the Insinkerator at present !! if its BS...show us why ??