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Love to play them first up ( and beat them ).. would set the tenet for the finals. We're probably the last team they want to meet... suits me 😉

Ummm... yeahhh.. NAHHH !!!

It's kinda whack... For the most part of the season...well , save some earlier games we've all, nearly to a one , bemoaned the forward section of our game. Blind Freddy could see it just wasn't going well. It needed attention, tweaking, fixing. So as I view it the club starts reconstruction. As part of this anyone who is to be participatory in the area of the game is being asked/told to work on their game. No one doubts or would be disappointed in Grundy's rucking but how he, indeed anyone playing forward fits into the evolving 'plan' needs work. The idiotic media are evaluating our "experiment" over the past few months. That's bogus.. this is a long(er) term event. This is a work in progress. It was always going to be. That Max sat out with injury just changed the timelines.

Tend to agree.. Expect Benny to retire EOS.. a much valued and respected Premiership player ( who knows...maybe twice ) Tommy might struggle also but might be a bit 50/50. The club is manufacturing contingency as we speak.

I'm going to hark back a little to the days I used to wander around with my trusty Minolta..... What's a camera got to do with this..?? It's how you see it. It's perspsctive, framing and context. Put one lens on...a 'particular' image appears in the viewfinder...change that lens..suddenly a lot more can come into focus. Alter your point of looking...a different picture again. That's how I see all of this. Many, mainly the media , have got this ALL wrong. But they don't care. That's not their purpose, their m.o. We need to step back for a moment and see the big BIG picture and how all the particpants fit into it and what role they are playing. The Club. Melbourne understandibly were/are looking to extend Max's career. Opportuniuty presents. ( B.G.) Max Gawn: If he's to play the #1 Ruck week in week out, two things. He will shorten his career and his effectiveness will wain. Brodie Grundy: Brought in to provide Ruck relief and be a stand in should Max incur injury. Also to provide a forward target. Timeframe: Ostensibly the length of Grundy's contract....so approx 5 years hence ( 4 and a bit now) Where the media starts going off the rails: You can NOT have 2 #1 Rucks. It's contradictory, literally. What is the longer term aspirations of the club? As I see and understand it it's to transition from one #1 to the other. It's posited that Grundy is being stooged because he's not the #1 ( presently ) . A heads up to the media type... he isn't supposed to be right at the moment, that will come. In the meantime it's been determined , in the context of our evolvong Forward structures that Brodie needs to refine his understanding of how that works and how he works within it. There is NOTHING sinister about this. We are talking about transition througha protracted timeline. I'm not surprised about Figjam. The more he opens his mouth the more stupid he looks. I'm neither surpised by Lyon though I am disappointed. Both these past great players as well as any number of other parrots seem immune form the requirement to actually ask teh most important question of all...i.e "What is the club trying to achieve??" Is it entirly plausible, indeed highly likely, that in the context of the original idea that as things panned out and we got to see how it al lmight work that there would be some caressing of the process. Added to this I'm sure that it's wasn't desirable that Max would suffer injury when and how he did but how "lucky' for us we had a backup.. Golly, who would have ever thought of that ? Certainly not the media maggots. I can't see this 'story' disappearing anytime soon it's just so juicy a morsel for the scavenging wannabe journo's. The problem for many of these 'mouths' is even should they realise they have the whole thing inside out and upside down their own egos won't allow their to concede and backtrack. In the meantime I'll ignore the Fugazi and look forward to seeing Grundy return , as he will, a little later in the season.

just NO !!!

God NO !!!

Theres some info in the casey demons rnd 17 thread

Thanks Uncle Bitters 😉 kind of you to have noticed... Two weeks running....going to retire now...lol

Fully coversant with the XJs TC.. both XJ6 , XJ12.. and XJC ;) all bloody notorious for crappy electrics.. and umm... "intermittent" transmissions ..( ask me how I know ...lol ) Lovely beast when going properly :)

I dont think the umps are nearly as much to blame as the AFL itself and its continual mucking around and rolling agendas. Used to be a fairly straightforward game....one most 7 yo in the school yard could fathom.... Now...who the f knows the rules from one week to another...

There's AGS as well ;)

All valid points. I dont think weve seen much of Trac fwd with Fritta higher up much ...as an actual plan. Sounds ok to me.

Well... being a Jag we better make sure the electrics are schmick and the transmission humming in syncro ;) .. if we're looking to get things purrfect !!

Simon says: It's all FUGAZI I am certain this has all been discussed front to back, left to right , by Goody, Choco et al with Brodie. My take... it's not his focus. He made very poignant and particular comments prior to the season. He was all in on what he could learn and in return contribute to the Dees. Themedia would like to think they're running the narrative...theyre just running their mouths. The club and Brodie , I'm sure, are ver focused on roles, and team. Brodie is a team player. I have a feeling Grundy will be making all his statements via his play.

..and then we didn't.. It's ok...youre back in the real world now ;)

Agree with this. The media...purple types especially... will make much of Geelost's gusto...rah rah etc..but i can't see them getting far. 5 to 8 a raffle of irrelevances imho.

I agree that 4th is preferable. Play the filth at our G...straight into the Prelim. Far-fetched ??? I think the resulting eos ladder may not trulyy refelect all teams' true form. I'm happy enough if we prise a bevy of wins closing out the season at around 3/4 goals per and in so building momentum...refining some tempo and rhythm. No I'm not talking about reinventing Big Audio Dynamite.. am talking about finding a groove. Getting our forward gane more used to angular incursions.....more harmony among the forwards in positioning and not crashing each other.... finding a steady kicking mojo. I.e...to get ourselves set...before ramping up. We've a good set of games to do this with, each one with challenges...each one with opportunity to gel even better. No game is a gimme...but each winnable. We need to better resolve our game/style as players come back to the mix. We need it more about the "game" than the personnel...imo.

We're talking about Bucks... I rate him very highly as a player... A coach not so much. Be seated ppl...fair warning. I rate Goidwin easily over Buckley. Buckley accomplished sfa at Pieland. Maybe he doesn't know as much as he spouts. Both Goodwin and especially Choco eclipse him for success. Maybe they have an idea or 5 . Im going to back our FD over that failed bit of filth. Think i need a lay down...

We're talking about the same mob that played Sat ?? They play better at home....and they managed a whole 2 snags after the big break. Ill be very surprised if they get close ...

Yep...its a different ball game.

Hes 4 to 5 years of footy .. thats a pretty dogmatic conclusion. I'd be disappointed to see a trade. Dont ( imho ) see it as necessary. But we can seevat seasons end.

Too many people buying into others metrics.

Certainly not a 5 min job to perfect. And the whole 'package' of how a good forward works is not a quick read.....but it's not War and Peace , nor Britannica ( apols to younger gens...lol ).. There's a distinct logic about where to be... you dont learn it rote...you either do or don't get it as much is the application of instictive understanding of opportunistic instances.. Yes a very convoluted way of saying.. position, space and timing. Some will never get it no matter how much teaching and training.... others...it's inherent... most....somewhere in between. Footy (sport ) is funny in a fashion....some who struggle with common tasks can play a ball like on a string. Theres such a thing as Footy Smarts ( nouse etc ) . Some can read the flight... some know where to be or how to get there...and have never been 'taught' I have no doubt Grundy gets it. His focus will now change. I'm happy to back him in. He's a skilled talented and very smart player.

Remind me how many Premierships he managed ?? Point being....what was he trying to coach ( re Grundy ) In the end...it's one opinion...