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Yeah if you get a good recruiter and list manager you hold on for dear life.

He'll certainly want to avoid North via PSD.

Their agenda with the ABC needs its own post code.

Chiefs, Bills, Rams

Now that's the Bolt we know! How can someone from Sky say the words 'ABC' and 'agenda' in the same sentence?

Really rate Caracella, could do a lot worse.

Plus another week to shove gambling down our throats.

Hate to say it but he's right, sort of.

No i don't agree. If he was put on the spot, he denies it, simple as that. Journos call coaches all the time and they answer them it's not unheard of. Or better still his manager could take it. They could have avoided the story going to print at very least and threaten legal action if it did.

100% Dubdee, it's extremely difficult to find a counterpoint to all this right now.

Is there anywhere you can learn about the integrity unit and the people on it?

Apparently if you do the same thing and expect different results you're mad

Cheers Swooper. Not expecting you to know but would Phil have any relation to Leon Egan the former Indigenous liaison officer at Hawthorn?

I don't even really know, I just wanted to see page 230.

Fix the other issues AFL. Focus on player welfare rather than look for new ways to maximise dollars. Stupid idea

Yeah something like that

Yeah that sounds like crap.

I think every club needs to be reviewed. A chance to come forward on a one off basis and share any truths that need to come out so everyone learns the lessons simultaneously and we figure out together how to never let it happen again. The game is not bulletproof, I don't care how rich the AFL is. Russia was a pretty wealthy country once. This is bigger than one club or coach and if you think this alleged behaviour is limited to this scenario, think again.

Andy Maher made an excellent point. Why didn't Clarko take the call? He could have nipped this all in the bud I'd it was not true and demand the story not to be printed or else.

I would have thought all people on the Hawthorn coaching staff in the years where the alleged incidents would have their futures put on hold pending the AFL investigation.

Would have thought this would be put on ice.

Then he will return to work.

Where does it say anywhere in the article that the AFL knew about this for 2 weeks and sat on it? The opening paragraph specifically says the following: "The review document, handed to Hawthorn's senior management two weeks ago and now with the AFL integrity unit." There is no mention of this being handed to them at that time. This is a serious matter and comments made need to be dealing strictly in facts and not between the lines. I understand many have agendas but can we hold off porking things up based on how we've all chosen to read the article?

Yet to hear one Hawthorn person shut this down entirely.

Especially this year as I'm pretty jealous of Geelong fans I know being there and potetnially enjoying this in person.