drdrake

could we be so lucky that Ward will be out, not Yze though he always plays well against the roos. Its no point having Robbo back if we can only manage 30 inside 50's like last week

If we win with this team, ND picks well, if we don't I can script the prees conference today, we just ran out of legs and made bad decisions. Hope it is the first, but we look on paper big and slow.

We cant line up like this we will be run off our legs, we don't have enough running players to rotate through the midfield. One of Brown CJ or Brock will come in

Laidley was assistant at Collingwood for a few years. I would employ a director of Football to be a mentor to Voss as a coach, someone part time with past history of sucessful coaching, someone with experince but no passion to coach. Maybe Ron, the living legend can come back.

You can add Bartram when Whelan is out, our back six for the future, hopefully Frawley can get stronger like his uncle after a few seasons in the weights room. That's the only player we may need to add a stronger body Tall. Hopefully this week we don't have Dunn and Miller playing, all those excited about Dunn on the wing are mis-guided by one game, he is a forward not a midfielder, with Robbo back play him at CHF Miller needs a spell. one of Cj or Brown should play hopefully it is CJ andI don't think Biz will get a game this week, our match ups down back look OK. Holland-Pettrie or resting Ruck Petterd-Harvey Carroll-Edwards Godfrey-Grant Frawley-Jones Bell to get however is left. No midfield tags needed beat them one on one. Love to see Half forward line Bate Dunn Davey with Robbo Neitz Yze behind them.

Go after Warnock's brother, playing at Freo 206 cm 2 years in the system, lets poach him back. We need a strong KPP around 196cm that can develope a strong body quickly. I don't care if he plays forward or back as long. KPP win you matches, that is the difference betwwen Carlton, Richmond to Hawthorn, the hawks used early picks for KPP and the other two picked midfielders with early picks, the hawks are miles ahead of the other two. Our midfield looks strong enough but we do need some explosive pace through there.

We should add coach, ND outcoached again, Pathetic Miller, I though Subi would suit him space long great for a lead up CHF, he didn't run gave no option coming out of defense, why ND didn't put him on Hanson after the first quarter and Dunn to CHF? Cam Bruce should never be used a tagger, he gets smashed every time. Is ND trying to retire Neita, by playing him at CHF he will expire very quickly. I fell sorry for PJ, he was made to ruck against Cox, Cox is the best ruckman in the AFL, PJ is getting better but Cox smashed him, White unfortunately is not even competitive in the centre against good ruckman. ND waits for the game to be well and truely lost before he makes changes, I thought Yze was OK in the first half then he has sent to the back pocket and wathed the ball go over his head again and again. Bell is not 6'4 at on stage he was playing on Cox in defense, bring on PJ and play him down back when this happens, don't just allow miss matches, both PJ and White have good endurance they can stay on the ground, PJ doesn't need a rest after rucking for 5 min per quarter.

I feel sorry for him, when your midfield is getting smash and turning the footy over like we have been for the past 8 weeks no Key defender would be able to stop their oponent.

Lets see how Mclean goes when he gets the heavy tag Trav gets each week.

I can't see why everyone wants to put Mclean at No 1, he has had some good games last year but he is not our most omportant player or best player on our list. He is showing signs that he will be but maybe 2008/9. IMO I would have as follows, Melbournes Best players, based on them at their best and the importance of them playing. 1) TJ, our most skillfull, damaging and creative midfielder only problem is consistancy 2) Neitz, our target when fit can kick big huals of goals 3) Rivers best tall defender by far 4) Mclean has what it takes to be our best player in the next few seasons 5) Bruce would be our best player but can't kick 6) Davey the pace we need and X Factor 7) Robbo Contests hard and can kick bags 8) White pains me to say but when he rucks well we generally win, but this year he has been beaten in Ruck work but still does enough around the ground 9) Carroll KPP hard nuts we need him down back 10) McDonald B&F winner can stop players and get the hard ball 11) Whelan greta small attaching defender 12) Green has become more of a hard working midfielder no flair gets enough of it and good skills 13) Yze he is a freak should never handball 14) Pickett Hard nut composed greta foot skills 15) Sylvia I wish his OP would go away 16) Bell Mid size defender has shown good form this year 17) Jones Hard gets the footy, will be a better player once Mclean gets fit 18) Bartram is our no. 1 Tagger he came in last year first year had the hard jobs enabled JMAC to get the footy 19) Bate we just need to find the right role for this kid Kicking over short distances need to improve 20) Godfrey in Bartrams absence has got back to the great tagger he was a few years back, kicking and skills let him down. 21) Moloney hard worker but predictable with the footy 22) Miller just hard working needs to take contested marks still our best option at CHF Then you have some youngsters Petterd, PJ, Dunn who look to have the ability to play consistant AFL footy but by the end of the season we will know where they stand. Jamar and CJ I don't know where to put them he has been one of the bigger disappointments of this season, I thought they could come in and play good footy but they has shown nothing. The untried Newton, Buckley, Frawley should play this year and we can rank them on their AFL performance. The others are so far away from playing AFL wwe can't rank them. The older players Ward, Brown, Holland, Biz, Ferguson, Wheatley IMO are only filling spots until the kids are ready to play, I wouldn't expect any of these players at the club next season, you may keep holland for his size and Wheatley for his versatility.

Jaded your point on Wheatley and Whelan, Whelan lasted 5 minutes and Wheatley was crap, we could of played Buckley, CJ, Newton, or Petterd against Freo, they didn't need to play, and by playing them we less players avaliable to be rotated through the midfield. Once Jones went down we had one fit player on th bench. West Coast have injuries, they also have the depth to cover it, what was exposed this season is we don't have the depth to cover losing players out of our best 22. Adelaide, West Coast and even St Kilda still win games when they have kep personel out.

Now with Eddie resigning from CEO, one G Lyon will lose some of his coverage, lets have two head coaches Lyon and Voss and get a past coach to be part time mentoring type role. Super star legend Ronald Dale comes to mind.

I wouldn't put it down to medical staff more preparation of our players and taking risks on unfit players. Whelan shouldn't of played the round he got injured neither should of Wheatley, Rivers is being rushed in when he has not been right. Silvia and Moloney have OP it is a management issue for them it will get better but will always be an problem. Mclean is a concern seems to be able to only string 5-6 games together but his body may still be adapting to the physical requirement of AFL. These three are young and you expect injuries as their bodies adapt to AFL training. I'm sure with Bartram that he had the scans and got the OK, he done his knee like Neitz and Robbo, thats just back luck just like Brocks foot and Frawleys fractures you cant do anything about these injuries they just happen. Bringing players back to early I agree but when the team is under the pump you sometimes play players that shouldn't be played and hope they get through, this year luck wasn't with us I'm sure other years it was. It will also take some time for the players to adapt to the new training techniques of the Phys Ed Guy, don't forget he was a sprint coach and many of the drills and exercises would be based around power movements just like sprint training. This takes a high toll on your body and takes some time to get adjusted to.

It wouldn't supprise me to see Mclean play a half also.

I would of thought Holland would be a good match up for Lynch and Carroll to get the third tall. It wil be interesting to see who is finally named in the 22, Brock had a broken bone so if they name him he is right to go because they would of scanned it this week. He won't be fit and hopefully if he does play doesn't flattern him for the following week.

That sounds like a fair deal why don't we completely raid the west and give Godfrey to Fremantle for Pav

throw in a Queenslander CHF as well for Hanson direct swap

It was a joke about trading him for Judd

Agree that Rivers plays well as that zoning defender but he also plays well one on one and until Frawley plays a few games he is not in the best 22. For all we know he may be a couple of years away from cementing his spot, we hope not but the guy doesn't deserve to be named in my best 22 until he at least shows he can play at this level. He will get his chance this year and hopefully at season end when we are naming our best 22 for 2008 season he will be in it.

I'm still not convinced on Dunn, IMO will be a lot better in a year or two so I would stick with Miller at CHF for now, this may change once we have a full list and Miller is playing that lad up CHF style which suits him. If he can't perform then he will be out. My best 22 Whelan Carroll Bell Petterd Rivers Bruce Johnstone Mclean Davey Bate Miller Sylvia Robbo Neitz Yze White McDonald Jones Green PJ Bartram Pickett( if he decides he wants to play) or Moloney Em Dunn, Godfrey, Frawley There are only a few side that play three talls up forward most have two and then a midsize tall which Bell can cover.

I feel sorry for this guy he is a winger HFF but it seems everytime he gets a game a AFL level he is played all over the ground like a Mr Fix it. I would like to see him play 4-5 weeks in a row on a wing or hff before you can make this call. He has the skills a little slow but lets see him string 4-5 games together. He may be lucky this year because we have a few older players that will be delisted before him. I would take him the Perth this week hopefully stars and we can offer him and a high draft pick for Judd.

I would like to see Neitz stay inside the forward 25m area one on one, not many ful backs can match his strength, with Robbo or Newton as our hard leading forward. I want to try and get another 3 years out of Neita and this is the only way, play like Alistar Lynch did for the last 4-5 yeaars of his carrear. I would love to see in our centre square bounce PJ ruck, Mclean, Jones and Sylvia with Johnstone and Johnson of the wings.

No I saw it Godfrey got cleaned up by a seagull, Kevin Sheedy will back me up on that the seagulls are tough at the dome. Some players ar just untouchable West and Johnson are two of them unless they do something in the main camera shot they won't get done. They aFL need the Dogs to play a role in the finals this year.

I hear Judd wants to thump us by 150 points so we can offer the eagles a good draft pick for his trade to the Dees.

Won't happen this week, Rivers needs time to get right, we can't keep having avalaible one week out the next give him another week, Mclean and Robbo won't be risked at Subi.