Bates Mate

big yes from me, big strong unit who uses the ball well. has good leadership qualities and most importantly a football brain. our three talls the maccas and frost all have at times horrible disposal and lack footy smarts.

To Have a debate you need 2 opposing views with reasonable arguments to try and persuade neutrals to your points of view. There is currently no debate even St Kilda die hards could not argue that Mcartin was the right choice over Petracca so debate over!

I know he is a Victorian and Demons man but thank god, I have become sick of his whinging everytime someone sticks i mic in front of him Truth is he was not up to test or 1day international level. Other that that 200 against S.Af in which he was dropped 4 times he was very ordinary in all the other tests he played and never looked comfortable at that level. He got enough one day oppurtunites at one day level and failed , one tour of india sticks out in particular could not handle the pressure and failed everytime he batted thanks for all you have done for the vics, but the hard done by tag he carriers with alot of cricket supports in this state is wrong imho

just added my $50 I feel great about it ,get on board everyone