Redleg

That is why I would be tempted to try and do a deal to get both picks. If we gave pick 4 and a player or two with one being a ruckman, that could get the deal done. Lets say we could steer Martin or Spencer to GWS and say Petterd or Bate or both. GWS need some hard bodies and most importantly need a ruckman even more so if Giles walks. If this sort of deal eventuated, we would have to be patient, as we would have two potential guns coming in a year to add to that year's first round pick. We could still get Toumpas or Grundy at 3, someone good at 13 and JV later. Pick 13 and a player could still be used to deal with GC for some of their mids. We also have salary cap room to target FA's. We would be in a strong position to really change the list.

You don't need to break rules. Each club just does what is in its best interests and the result takes care of itself. For example if you are GC wanting Tippett and you know they would want pick 2 to use on a local, you don't stuff around nominating a player who you don't really want. If you are GWS, you don't ruin the chance to get the highest pick possible for an U17 pick. Result, no rules broken and everyone gets who they want, where they want. AFL happy as GWS gets best draft picks and GC get great forward.

Apparently not.

So what's changed since he signed a new 3 year deal in July? Only one more month of rumours left, to have fun with.

Would have thought pick 4 at worst, as only one live club with a pick better and if it goes to Crows for Tippett, as I have said a few times, they will take Toumpas or Grundy. We are therefore in the box seat to deal with GWS if we want an U17 player and that will guarantee them not naming JV as a bonus.

Travel is a huge disadvantage. Wonder how the Eagles will go tonight. At least for them they played at home last week. In a way it would be good for them to win as we could see the end of the Cloke situation and hopefully war break out between Pies and Blues.

Gee that must have been a powerful conference to last a week. Most last until you leave the hotel.

Well I did say I spoke to a Pie supporter with a few contacts, who told me Cloke was gone 2 weeks ago. He also felt that maybe Eddie could up the offer and change his mind.

Dockers very unlucky. Back up in 6 days after two long trips from Perth and back and then a trip to Adelaide. Training affected and whole week disrupted. Play against a team that has had last two games at home. Play that game in Perth and they win easily. On the night Pav was unsighted. Ballantyne, Sandilands, Hill all poor and McPhee the turnover king.

Whoops!!!!!!!!!!!

Assistant Coaches have called in the lawyers at Carlton. Commentators tonight say Carlton Coach conference was poor and that Malthouse did himself no favours. Hope the tide is turning and the club spirals downwards.

That would leave Toumpas and Grundy for us. Don't think that will happen.

Hayden Jolly of the Suns wants to go home to Adelaide. Could form part of the Tippett deal.

Happy for Grimes who I sponsor, but thought Jones would win by a country mile. Interesting that except for Rivers, no one in the top 10 is being spoken of as possibly leaving.

I was told that 2 weeks ago Cloke was gone, but now with his form and Carlton, Eddie has labelled him "keep at all cost." I think they will clear a couple of players and lift the offer to $900k per year for 5 years. Then Cloke can stay and say he took less than elsewhere and all the Pies fans will think the sun shines out of his arse, when it really shines out of Eddie's.

A deal with GWS for Hogan of itself precludes them from JV bidding. GC's interest in Tippett, IMO precludes them from JV bidding, as Crows will advise GC they better have pick 2 handy for trading. If those two scenarios happen JV goes as our second round selection. I am convinced that if Crows lose Tippett they will insist on pick 2 to get an adelaide boy in Toumpas or more likely Grundy.

Some were just anti your idea.

So the first Sheedy medal is devalued by controversy and is nothing short of a shambles. A political vote to save face, by a club that overpaid an ordinary footballer and person. Hope his contract leads to salary cap problems in the future. PS. Apparently his contract is now affecting the clubs ability to deal with Giles. Oh the joy.

I heard something similar. Disgraceful episode by the AFL.

Have they run out of salary cap room? How could that happen, unless they were paying someone way too much?

Not if they want Tippett. I am sure Crows will tell them if they want Tippett, they better have pick 2 left to trade with.

Yes, in a heartbeat.

We will see the record winning margin in the Bluey. Nathan will street the field. Good luck to him he deserves it.

Hope you are right, but that is not a given. Injuries and the draw for starters, will play a big part.

And the war between Pies, Malthouse and Carlton heats up.