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But Giants said they were happy to negotiate something else as they brought in Laverde. Nothing to do with picks, they offered Leek a lot of money and now know they can’t do it. Mess of a club as Cornes loves to say.

That could be the Suns pushing that to the media. It’s now up to BH and his Manager. If they are not 100% in, it won’t happen.

I suppose if we got Walter, you would look at going after WC pick 2, to get a top kid, by possibly trading JVR back home, using the Clarry pick and maybe adding Woey and Laurie or more picks or some combination of all the above. With Walter, Mihocek, Petty, Kentfield, JVR, AJ and even now Heath, who also plays forward, you would have too many key forwards. However, I don’t see us getting Walter.

As I said, I don’t believe Saints are telling the truth. Giants are making it clear they were happy to negotiate, even with a 2027 pick, which after Tassie raids all the good players, will be pretty useless. They have run out of cap room and absolutely made a mess of this and treated Leek disgustingly as all of the AFL are saying.

Well at least that is a first rounder in a stronger draft, before Tassie joins.

I agree Ted. We say it’s Humphrey or 7 and Walter with nothing back, end of story. We need to put it bluntly, you want our best player, a champion who is contracted. Our Coach actually wants him to stay. You want him, but you don’t want to trade fairly. We tell them our membership wants him to stay. We will get crucified if we do your deal, end of story. We get BH or his manager to tell them you are showing no compassion to him in his difficult family situation. That will cause him to leave you at the first opportunity and he won’t care about you then, as you don’t care about him now. He won’t be able to concentrate on his footy. His team mates and any prospective player will know how you operate. Does that help your culture? Btw our guy is a champion and our best player with all his achievements, BH and Walter are potential, not champions. I would then tell Tracc to go to work with GC as they insulting you and your value. If we don’t get this done as above you are staying. It’s up to you and GC.

Plenty would touch him but he nominated GC and we are negotiating with them in good faith.

That excuse is BS as they could negotiate a lesser pick. They have obviously mucked up the figures and now Marshall looks like staying and Cats have gone all out on Curnow. Curnow is looking at tractors for his new farms and being measured by Cotton On for his new modelling role for the company.

Apparently an ill family member.

Pennant I value your opinion. Given Clarry and Tracc will be gone, would you take Steele for a couple of years, if Saints paid some salary and he was basically a throwaway pick? I have warmed to it, as he is an extractor and good team man, now with a point to prove.

Apparently to do with the serious injury he suffered this year. Really feel for him.

Probably on the money.

And there you have it. I wouldn’t be surprised if the deal is already done, but it needs to be seen not to be a rushed trade. These guys do this every year and most of them get along quite well and their media talk is the click bait .

Only one problem with that, they know if they trade BH to another club Tracc stays. That would be crazy on their part. They agree to trade BH, but to another club, to destroy the Tracc deal. Do you see that happening? Tracc is a “yes” from CAC away from being a Sun.

I would try and get Steele thrown into the deal and we pay $500k of his salary for the two years left. He is a salary dump who might refuse to go, so buyer has upper hand, like with Clarry.

I interpret that to be something like they want Tracc plus something for Humphrey and we want Humphrey plus something for Tracc. You can see the middle ground, if they are now talking trading Humphrey for family reasons, a straight swap.

We will get a fair return for Tracc, Clarry I am hopeful that Giants will be reasonable.

I think we are all devaluing Clarry’s football value because of some off field issues. The guy was a superstar and could still be a very valuable asset to the Giants. Like Tracc at the Suns, he could be the player to take them to the next step. These guys don’t grow on trees. We shouldn’t get sucked in to getting nothing for him. Maybe we pay a bit of his contract, but when Flanders is getting nearly a million dollars a year from Saints and NAS on $2m a year, what would a club expect to pay Clarry, surely well over a million. So we need imo a good player from the Giants or a very good pick, their 12. I am not saying we get a star player, but maybe one who addresses a need of ours and the Giants have plenty who are not getting a regular game. Clarry will obviously be a Giant by next wednesday night, but I hope we get something reasonable in return at the very least.

I thought he retired. 33 in November.

As opposed to the way the Bombers are tracking.

Swallow coming as an Assistant Coach might help Humphrey’s decision a little. Former Coach, former team mate, closer to family, easy trade, better money and more opportunity to play some midfield.

No in Caulfield or nearby suburbs.

That seems more likely. Giants are getting a star player, who is getting back to his good, maybe not best form. They need him badly with Green nearly alone in the middle, with Kelly out for 2026 and Coniglio often out. I wonder if we get a player who isn’t a regular like Gruzewski and a pick we can use to maybe get another player, like Rogers in Tracc deal for Humphrey. How much we contribute could be a factor, but it would be extremely unlikely to be the rumoured amount. That was media speculation. Giants will also need some more cap room, with players coming in and I think only Aleer going that I know of atm, who isn’t on much with them and Ward retiring. We have a good relationship with Giants and a deal will be done, as will Tracc deal with Suns most importantly with Humphrey becoming a Demon. I am now expecting that deal to be done well before next wednesday probably after both clubs posture for a straight swap. I still think May will get done late, maybe to Roos for a nothing pick and us paying a small amount of his $800k to bring him down to say $600-700k for the one year left and maybe less if he signs for 2 years at less money. I have warned to Steele and would be happy to get him in Heath deal with Saints contributing a bit like us with May. Steele would be good for a couple of years to help replace Tracc and Clarry’s midfield contested possession work and he would be a good mentor as a solid citizen.

Personally I will find it easier with Tracc and Oliver since they are leaving, going to Interstate clubs, as appears to be the case. You hear less about the smaller Interstate clubs than the big Victorian ones and when they are playing at the G, it’s usually in front of mostly Dees fans. It would be horrible having 80000 feral Pies fans cheering for Tracc or Oliver.

The late Betty White. A very funny woman.