Tricky

Apparently he isn't - some poor bastard on here actually knows them both, in the flesh - can you believe his bad luck? I think we should begin taking donations to the cover the frontal lobotomy he will no doubt be requiring.

Ha! Let's just do a straight swap for Ablett - I'd be happy with that

Disgusting.

Then we need to change his mind. Can you put in a good word for us?

Wish I had posted this.

This. I understand the "not the end of the world" outlook, but anyone who thinks our quality KPP are expendable is delusional.

LOL. The original is still the best! http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29858-relax-weve-got-this/?hl=relax Depressing to think the idea is even more comical this time around!

No I'm not

And a pretty sound one based on the facts he presented. Do you take everything so literally? What's your point again??

Which part is not factual?

I started out with a similar sentiment - although in my case I could not shake the feeling that backing a second consecutive untried coach, given the magnitude of the mess we were in, was extremely risky... In the time since then, I believe we have witnessed numerous, serious errors in judgement on Neeld's part and under his reign we have bottomed out beyond all expectation to a W/L record of 5/29. 4 of these 5 wins against expansion clubs - and you can throw in our largest ever loosing margin at the MCG I believe. Why must the ability to progress on-field in any way, shape or form, be mutually exclusive to the "long-term" plan? Unless we see some inkling, some glimmer of hope on-field soon, then I see no reason that we should have any confidence that we are moving forward under MN. Enough is enough. Cool.

Like Neil Craig?

Yep, I suppose when people actually state facts, the message will sound similar...

An incredibly boring premiership?

To this I say what stuie said below... I'm not against untried coaches per se. Obviously we want the right person for the job above all and this cannot be guaranteed. However, a proven, experienced, successful coach who remains relevant to the game is, IMHO, far less of a gamble.

You would entertain hiring a third consecutive untried assistant after (what would be) 2 colossal failures? Seems like absolute lunacy to me FT - might as well get GLyon to pick him for us....

Great post. Let's hope however that they don't have to continually repeat the lesson like the rest of us modern day Demons.

No it doesn't. Jon Ralph article puts this kind of comment into perspective (Not a fan, but he is right on this): http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/the-buzz-its-enough-to-make-every-heart-beat-true/story-e6frecjc-1226642434738 Melbourne could yet finish bottom and, if it does, its record since 2007 would read: 14th, 16th, 16th, 12th, 13th, 16th and 18th. When the AFL brought in its priority pick system, the league made it clear only a club with levels of failure akin to Fitzroy's would receive a pre-draft pick. Fitzroy finished sixth, 10th and 11th in three of its final eight seasons, figures Melbourne can't boast. And as Dees great David Schwarz said on Monday: "Melbourne is a bee's whisker from being in the Fitzroy position." The league's formula for priority pick allocation is based on premiership points won, finals appearances and premierships, as well as injury rates - not the level of incompetence of previous administrators or the volume of the objections from rival clubs."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/paul-roos-denies-links-to-melbourne-coaching-job/story-e6frf9mf-1226642510151 Is the double negative in this article enough to fuel our hope? "Roos, who led the Swans to the 2005 flag, said not even a huge payday wouldn't lure him back into the coach's box."

Sat, if i could paint you a picture, it would look like this:

Sentiments that stuck in my mind after last night that should give us hope: I’ve been asked numerous times today “How will we entice anyone here?”. Easy. It’s the biggest and best challenge in football at the moment and there are a lot of people out there who like those sort of challenges. Fundamentally that’s why I am here. I can’t say no to a challenge. So there will be others who will say the same thing.

Perhaps it was unfair, a room full of premium members despairing after a first half of football from our team that was reminiscent of your local under 9's side, but he certainly came across very detached and smart ass-like... Peter Jackson on the other hand addressed the room with respect and even stated that he marveled at the loyalty of the members given the predicament of the club.

I was there too BB and you have summed up the atmosphere very well. Exactly what he said and was clearly an indictment on CS.

Spot on rjay. How the decision was made to hand this tragic mess to an untried coach beggars belief.