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Gawn has been solid and great for 19 year old beanpole. See you in a few years though... Jamar and Martin will be hard to break up.

I play the game, but that isn't a good enough reason in and of itself to win this argument. If a teammate is running back with the flight you protect him. You are the one that can see the ball and those around, the player running back cannot. And don't ever say "if you played at all" or "if you played the game" because it makes you look like you don't have an argument and you just want to browbeat someone into agreeing to your position.

I didn't know this was news?! This is a high stakes game and the millions at stake rely on what they do now - they are throwing the sh!te every which way, the 800 odd footy journos are picking it up, polishing it and serving it to us, and we are eating it up. Gubby Allan would go to the trouble of burning friends like Sheahan to get what he wants - he has done it before. Ablett didn't this many rumours runnning around. There is an architect and you know what? I hate architects.

Miller against his old team. Riewoldt a danger. Jurrah a danger? Jamar a FF? Nahas an annoying midget? Discuss.

For those haven't seen the forest through the Scully trees - there is a big game this weekend in what will be just the second big, important, relevant, whatever, game under Bailey. The first was Rd 20 against Hawthorn. We can discuss this or we can talk about which Scully rumour to believe, and tear strips of off him in this hypothetical scenario. I don't care. I can do chew gum and walk at the same time...

Green and Davey have been awful. Moloney and Rivers have been great and poor. Grimes injured. Jones has been the only consistent performer and leader. Green, Davey, and River s have awful body laguage when things aren't going their way. The LG has been a failure so far this season - a big, fat F. If they want to begin to be taken seriously then they have to have a good, positive game on Saturday in the return of relevant games for this club. Otherwise it's the under 23s picking from themselves or the coach (whoever that may be) choosing the captain and his leuitenants.

That's not right. Green light or not, when your teammate is running back with the flight - you protect him. Green has to continue his form and work on his body language when things aren't going his way. Well done, but miles to go before we sleep...or his captaincy gets renewed next year.

I want to reiterate this point. We are supporters of this club, and our club is trying to keep a player. We are not helping by being the fuel in this rumour spreading - surely there has been so many contradictory and altered rumours that they all get less believable? The old axiom of "where thers is smoke there is fire" is quite right - but how many different fires can there be if there is only one spark? We should be asking ourselves where these erroneous rumours come from (if you believe he is gone, fine, but there is only one 'true' rumour)? They are coming from the west, and they are trying to enact a self-fulfiling prophecy - make enough people think Tom is gone, and they will make life so difficult that he will decide to leave. Gubby Allan is a brilliant bastard - don't let him do this to our club.

The return of relevant games began with Hawthorn last year. We get our second one under Bailey this week. And the next week. Looking forward to it.

The elephant isn't in the room yet, he is outside and you are scared of his shadow. I will deal with him when he enters the room.

Really, I think that the dreaming is being done by those "who just know" he's gone. Som eon here "just knew" that Judd was coming...

I dunno, he seems pretty angry with you... Worried about the views you extrapolate from not a lot of info... We can be paranoid, hand-wringing pricks when he leaves. Until then...

All players play injured to some extent. He hurt his knee earlier in the year and is trying to work through it. He has got to learn to work through it at some point so he should be kept in the side. And as you say, he is part of a decently functioning forward line (well, every second week...).

I know what you mean - Howe looks like a footballer. But Bate had a a very good start to his career. There is a lot of work ahead of Jeremy to avoid a similar fate.

How is that dealing with it at the end of the year? And if he said "I want to be a Demon next year" what then? More questions, and possibly a promise he can't keep in the unlikely event of a poor offer from us or a sudden desire to not play for a club where the supporters boo him. The questions will be "why don't you sign now then?", "why don't you sign a HoA?", etc. Never ends.

Honestly, who the frack would know? Let's get off the 'effort rollercoaster' we are on and see where we are left. I have no idea whether we are better than the Tigers and the Dogs. But I would like our effort to plateau at a reasonably high level and see where that leaves us at the bye.

That's hyperbole. Bate had a very good start to his career. He hasn't kicked on, but don't rewrite history.

If Jamar comes in then Dunn can't play in that forward line. Green Jamar Jurrah Watts Howe Sylvia I think we have moved on from Dunn.

What if you are not the one sowing anything? What if it is all speculation and rumour engineered to shake Tom loose. Still jumping at shadows. I mentioned a few months ago that it would be pathetic if we believed these rumours to the point where we abused or booed Tom as he wore the red and the blue. Apparently, we have got to that sad place. He is a Demon until he decides he doesn't want to be - let's not disgrace ourselves.

Easy to tell if this rumour were true - if Tom plays next week, it isn't true. Jumping at shadows once again.

Tom has put off contract negotiations until the end of year. Tom hasn't signed anything. These are the only things Tom has done in this saga - I can tell you this because he told us this. Well within his rights to do this (hell, we are doing it with our coach). The rest of it is us, and our tilting at windmills, except these windmills are rumours. Rumours spread and fanned by those around the GWS franchise. They want this reaction. They want supporters to yell pathetic, hurtful nonsense at Tom down the race, on the boundary, in the street. Wake up and realise that you are reacting to the rumours and not the actions of player. Speculate all you like but if you hear a Melbourne supporter hang sh!t on the kid, you should make sure you support the player and not the rumour.

How about some realism and fairness? We will deal with both contracts at the end of the season. Nearer to when the contract runs out. I know this may seem naive but it is professional and common practice in other circles...

You don't understand what I am saying. All teams - Melbourne, Ainslie, Mordialloc 3rds, Southport, anyone - who are being pressed across half back will have any player in the forward 50 left alone because the other teams defenders know that that player is irrelevant because he is 80m away from the play. Our forwards have to push up, what they don't do well enough, is work back into the 50 hard enough when we win the footy.

It's ironic that your namesake helped Tom move into a place about 6 months ago in the SE suburbs... This is not a great post...

streams.