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Cross out for Riley. Riley is the future...possibly.

Well, actually, there is an agreement that clubs can't directly talk to players management outside of the 'off-season' - hence why Scully and Ablett were signed up a year in advance. And you couldn't see my point? That players will sign later and later and it doesn't mean collusion or conspiracy? You couldn't get there?

Yes, I didn't see the Crows game coming (mainly that 1st half). But this team is what they dish up in the next two weeks. Come out and beat the Dogs and the Tigers and we can discuss something more. At the moment we are fighting for form, consistency, and respect and that's enough for now.

I am most definitely aware that I have been fooled once and any future shame will be on me, but FA does bring into consideration the possibility that a decision has not been made and that he will weigh up the options in front of him as the year progresses and, possibly, into October.

Last I checked you didn't have to run on your ribs nor kick with them...

What we he know about whether Frawley is worth 800k or 500k? The cap will be just over $10m next year and we have to pay somebody. Spread $9.5m over the list and Frawley is going to get paid some coin (we have to pay the cap floor).

I thought you were above the above. Take his spot, that's all Roos is saying to the group of players you think should be there. If he is rubbish, what are they? I'm too tall to play Fwd Pocket but it, with CHF, is the toughest spot on the ground to play - get it the right spot, take the half second opportunity and you do your job. Do it three times, and you have had a good game. Miss the spot or the shot and your a waste of a spot. Play the position in a team that averages 35 inside 50s and you are on a hiding to nothing, and seeing nothing but hidings... I don't jibe with this 'he won't be around for much longer' stuff, neither will Cross, nor Jamar. But they are the best options for this team in the roles they play for us to win right now. Let's do that. Now, I am sure that Byrnes' position is under threat after a few apparently played well in the VFL, but whoever takes his spot won't be taking out the trash. They will win their position and be in form and play his role better than he has. That's it.

If you don't see it, what can possibly be said? Jack Grimes has played more good games than bad and can win you a match with a punch of the footy. As your post suggests - you are taken by clangers and mistakes. Good players make them, because they get the footy, that is the risk you take when you go and get the footy. It's the safe players that get easy kicks and let others do the hard things that you don't want too many of. You say he screwed up a mark in the back line, I say he screwed up a great reading of the play.

I think that's a paradox. Whoops, I will be ignored if I keep this up... Post-Neeld. Structures. Gerard Healy is bad. Paul Roos good. Phew. Saved it.

There is a rubicon between playing 6 games down there and being relocated down there entirely and you know it. Hawthorn play 4 games down there but still manage to have 13 games in Melbourne with 11 of those at the G. The scenario would be similar with NM - if they were to have 6 games in Tas. The AFL would 'fixture' them to have 11 Melbourne games, 6 Tas games and 5 travel games. That is not relocation, setting aside my tongue-in-cheek response surrounding Hawthorn's relocation...

The latest thing I heard was that Gillon was not the person they wanted to see in as CEO. As for 'relocation' Billy - this is simply a consolidation of what we have now. Instead of two teams playing 6 games, it will be one team. Whether or not NM will agree to it is another question. But it is far more likely than moving a team down there permanently, or starting a new team there. Which, I was assuming, was your prediction/fear? Or was I mistaken?

With Mitch off the list, it is a ridiculous situation where we cannot sign anyone from outside the AFL to come onto the list... I hope to see some changes to this in the next few years.

When I saw him live against Gold Coast he was playing on Ablett and another one their very good mids and he was playing a very selfless role but he was doing it in a selfish way and I will explain: When the ball was in his vicinity, he was more concerned with stopping his player from getting it than he was getting it himself. Some may say that that is good, and proper, and welcome for a tagger but if you are playing in a stoppage with 6 GC players looking at the footy, and 5 Melb players looking at the footy - the upper hand is with GC. Not only that but when we got the footy, he was slow to move away from his man to be involved in the play. When the ball somehow got to him in close he was slow to move it backwards to our release player and seemed to struggle in that in-close environment. This may seem unintuitive but in a game that is moving away completely from a one-on-one style - you have to be less worried about 'your' bloke and more worried about your 'ball,' less involved in disrupting one players movement and more about protecting your teams movement. I fear for Jordie's longevity in the game if he can't put it together.

Well I thought the opposite and I can recall being criticised for thinking we would struggle again this season. But I never for a second felt victimised. Why does the desire for free speech extend to unchallenged free speech? If posters are being offensive, that is unacceptable but there is a disconnect when people say 'I have a right to say what I want' and implicitly state 'without others being able to do the same.'

I did acknowledge the 'single team' desire. But I don't think they envision Hawthorn there. I think they want to use the Tas Govt money as an equalisation measure for NM. It would be a boon for NM to play 6 games there and get the money that has made Hawthorn a powerhouse. As for the 'no Tassie team for 10 years' link: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-30/tassie-team-a-long-way-off I think 2016 will bring some decisions but I think it will be the AFL trying to pressure the Tas govt and NM to play 6 games a season there in both Hobart and Launceston. Time will tell.

Stoppage work is a science these days - it's like running a basketball play every time the ump throws it up. It is understandable, if unacceptable, that Jones and co. are struggling with it. The mids are new, young, NQR, or 1 person...

Yes, they are as ubiquitous as content-less, irrelevant posts...

You keep calling me ignorant, Billy - I think you are projecting. The new CEO of the AFL has just said that he doesn't think there will be a team in Tassie inside the next ten years and that he doesn't necessarily see a 'Tasmanian' team playing games there: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-15/afl-backs-one-team-in-tas The next option is a pseudo-relocation (which is what Hawthorn has done anyway) with one team playing games in both Hobart and Launceston. This would mean the consolidation of both the 4 games the Hawks play in Launceston and the 3 that NM wish to play, and will most likely be granted, from 2015 and 2016. How he goes about doing this will be interesting - he says that the arrangements for both clubs will continue but that is dividing the state - so 2016 will be a good time to see what is can be done. But 2016 will not see a new Tasmanian team, so he is looking at Haw or NM to play 3 games in both Launceston and Hobart? What club is going to agree with that? Will a club be forced? How would NM be forced to play more games there when they couldn't force them up to the Gold Coast 5 years ago? I think 2016 will roll around and the status quo will remain. Feel free to bump this if I am wrong. I think this issue is dormant for a while...

The only major black eye for retaining players was Junior McDonald. That was self-defeating list management and it was also poorly managed. As for the rest - these players get inflated because of the sorry state of our list. Frawley would be a huge loss but hardly insurmountable.

That thread makes baby Jesus cry...

It isn't working. And until there is a market to be moved to - we are safe. 10 years of grace time before Tasmania even becomes a protagonist in this created drama of relocation. You are jumping at the shadow of a kicked can... (I really like that line. Like me or loathe me - it's a good line!)

This was the headline for me. What the above entails is unknown at this stage. His desire to have a consolidation of support in Tasmania is admirable, and the only way they will get a team if their own in the medium to long term future. That cause will have to include not allowing NM to play any more games there and attempting to coax Hawthorn to play more games there in the short term and then leave in the medium to long term at some point. It makes it very hard to get the variables right but it may just be a case of kicking the can down the road on Tasmania once again. He said he didn't see a team there in the decade, but if he allows NM to continue to split the state with Hawthorn, then this will be confirmed in my eyes. As for what this means for our club, his words should be a comfort that we will be given time to get our house in order in an 18 team competition for a few years yet. *And it also completely takes the wind out of the sails of our resident concern troll Household Demon.

He does look good in the number 3...

So you would like the moderators to remove non-football related posts? Because there are times they do that and posters fell as though that is 'poor moderation.' I suggest you use the full functions of the new software that allow you to ignore users if you feel some on here are not worth reading.

...and doesn't want to play for your club.