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I think can probably take away that from the group of 6 certainties combined with links saying we are likely to use pick 5 on a mid we are going to take the player that is left out of that group with pick 5. Realistically it looks like it’s between Langford and Jagga for pick 5 which will be dependant on which one Carlton take at 3, or if Norf take Tauru at 2 it pushes them all down 1 so would have the choice between the 2 of them.

I really like Allan which personally I rate him higher than Smilie and about the same as Langford. To me he’s a got an incredibly well rounded profile with a sky high ceiling, he tested top 5 for standing & running vertical jump and top 5 for agility, he ran a sub 3 seconds 20m sprint and a 6:20 2km time trial, all at 191cm and a strong frame. Most importantly all that athleticism shows up on field with his fierce competitiveness and appetite for the contest makes him really good defensively in the midfield or down back, certainly leaps and bounds better defensively than Smilie & Langford. He plays with more of a presence than those other 2 but they at this stage certainly have him beat for skills but I think there’s a lot of scope for him to also make that a strength as he’s got a huge leg can kick the ball probably almost 60m and has flashed good decision making lowering his eyes when he needs to it’s just more about executing those short kicks he needs to get better at. To me reminds me a lot of Elliot Yeo with his power and versatility, I’d be very happy if we got him at 9.

Not sure if anyone posted this one but this would be my dream result for us: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/41946825/afl-first-round-phantom-draft-2024-every-club-pick-richmond-sam-lalor-jagga-smith-finn-osullivan-bolters-sliders-more

Defensively is very sound, his competitiveness would be one of his best attributes combined with his athleticism and intercepting I actually see him as more of a defensive half back than an attacking half back, in a similar mould to Maynard. His ball use is decent but not elite at the moment, he needs to improve in that area to be an elite attacking weapon off half back or in the midfield.

Fair point, more so meant someone who has been that guy consistently year over year which with injuries and form salo has struggled to get back to that player since. I certainly wouldn’t complain having 2 2021 salo’s off half back though

On Murphy Reid I know he’s played all year as a mid but to me he has all the makings of at least starting his career as a gun half back playing in a similar style to Zorko. Agree his size and pace limitations may limit his potential in the midfield which is where I think he can get away with it more at half back to use his best attributes footy IQ, vision, disposal to set up the game which we’ve never really ever had that kind of player. Pick 5 may feel a bit of a reach but to me I’d be all over him at 9. I’m hoping with pick 9 we grab a half back to step in with riv going into the midfield. Forward/mid with pick 5, defender/mid with pick 9 would be ideal imo.

I would be more than happy to cough up a top 10 pick and petty or 2 mid-late firsts for Houston, we are talking about THE best kick in the league which elite kicking is our biggest weakness IMO it's an absolute no brainer. His ability to kick 60m accurate bullets is incredible and the pure goalkicking threat outside 50 is so valuable he kicked 3 of them in the same game against Hawks this year. We should still get 5 years of his best for what will be a back-to-back all australian at the end of the year, we should be doing everything we can to get this over the line to contend whilst Max & May are still at their best.

Pretty clear we will be focusing key position players with both picks, probably what we can expect. To clarify as well Jefferson, Allan, George, and Barnett linked to our first pick, Gruzewski linked to our second. Sounds like all those linked to our first pick will go first round as other clubs in the first like them too.

Doesn't surprise me, they were all over Max Holmes as a huge bolter a few years ago, they do have a tendency to reach for bolters. I feel like everyone in the media has Clark to Geelong just because it makes sense geographically and the selwood play style but I haven't seen an actual journo link him to them. Apart from plucking guys from their VFL team they've never really shown a tendency to draft local kids because they know they can just trade for them later down the track.

I mentioned it just before but I believe that consistency has been his biggest knock as a prospect which might be why we question why he might slide as we don't know why his form was so inconsistent. At the under 18 championships his first game vs Vic Metro he was WA's best player however after that he was pretty sub-par without featuring in the match report for any of the other three games. It was a great effort for him to be playing WAFL seniors but saying that his form was up and down without really ever dominating a game, albeit being played a bit out of position at half forward which showed his ability to be flexible but not really impacting much at half forward might be a knock on his ability to contribute outside of being an inside mid. Physical and skill traits are all there, if he can put it all together consistently he will easily be a top 10 player from the draft, it's just that matter of if he can turn around those consistency issues that have plagued him for whatever reason.

Article mentioned he's more in the frame for dees and saints picks in the 30s. It also mentions his draft range will be from late teens to 40s and that Adelaide "may consider" matching a bid if he falls past 40. Doesn't really speak glowingly to him that the club who have watched over him aren't even a certainty to match a bid and the quotes from anonymous recruiters in the article don't seem that impressed with him.

I don't know if he is a flight risk but from my understanding his form has been quite inconsistent all year across WAFL and the under 18 champs. He definitely has some great AFL traits with his explosiveness which he showcased in his great games at both levels but maybe there's questions on his application leading to poor games would be my guess.

Sounds like Gold Coast are locked in with Ginbey at pick 5 (6 after Ashcroft) as he's seen as the prospect with the least go home factor for them. If that rumour is true I wonder if it's Tsatas we're targeting with rumoured speculation of him sliding. Would make sense his outside midfield nature would compliment our inside bulls very well. If we were to move back I'd be okay with it if we were able to nab George. I wouldn't be against taking George with 13 as it is a similar outlook to Jefferson anyway with likely not playing next year. George just looks like that game changer who could become anything, a potential mid/fwd swing with Trac could be devastating. Jefferson's lack of physicality in marking contests and in general really worries me.

Knightmare has no insight into what the clubs are actually thinking, he just selects based off rumours and his own rankings. I have no doubt we would’ve picked Holmes if Geelong didn’t trade up 1 pick in front of us (hence why they did it because we would’ve taken him). Carroll seems to be a miss but was passed on by basically every club until Carlton took him. GWS in that year took some bolters that no one predicted at all.

Interestingly the article mentions that we are very keen on Ed Allen who they have going to West Coast at the pick before us. Doesn't surprise me as we do seem to love a bolter, I wouldn't hate it as he's a raw prospect with high upside similar to Jefferson but don't think he'll get past West Coast as they are desperate to take home grown talent. I think if Jefferson gets past St Kilda he'll probably get to our pick as Blues and Dogs don't need key forwards and West Coast will be taking WA players.

Probably wouldn't even be using that pick we're trading for Hunter, very happy

He's a smooth mover for sure and yep he just qualifies for this draft by about a week I think.

He even moves like Bont. I believe he has the highest ceiling out of anyone in the draft with his combination of contested ball, kicking, decision making, and overhead marking. I find it interesting that the article last week mentioned that we are looking for a top 7 pick, I heard Jason Taylor recently say that he thinks there’s an even group at the top of elite talents and then there’s quite a drop off to an even pool of players. Makes me wonder who those 7 players are if the purpose of a top 7 pick is to guarantee one of those players.

I also agree with this, I think he is too much of an outside player to be worthy of a top 5 pick, I've got concerns about his toughness, ability to win contested ball, kicking, and defensive accountability based on the vision I've seen. That being said he would fill a need on a wing opposite Langdon where he wouldn't be required to win much contested ball with our midfield bulls feeding it out to him. I still would prefer Wardlaw and Clark as midfielders who aren't just midfield bulls, they can also be effective on the outside. I also really like Phillipou who I think has a higher ceiling with his versatility.

This is spot on, I'm expecting the Jackson deal to go down on the last day as we wait for other trades to happen for freo to get the picks required and pies will need to move Grundy before making other deals. I'm actually expecting the Grundy deal to happen pretty early, they will take what they can get and move on.

This is nothing but speculation but this is how I think the Jackson deal will get done: Bowes and Pick 7 get to Geelong (don't know if they give anything back, if so it will be a future pick of some sorts), Geelong split 7 with Freo for Pick 14 and that priority future second they got from North for Logue (this allows Geelong to use those picks to trade Bruhn and Henry), Freo trade 7 and future first to us for Jacko (I suspect we will end up throwing back like a third round pick as well which I am anticipating us having a lot of late picks with the fringe players we could lose). I think the deal will go down on the last day as we will have to wait for other deals to go down but I think it makes sense and serves a purpose to all clubs. With next years predicted strong draft and Freo not locked into make the 8 next year IMO I think the value is basically two top 10 picks which is what the club has not backed down from and I believe is Jackson's worth. Don't know if 7 will be high enough to grab Cadman, i suspect not, I just hope we don't use it on Jefferson. Grundy for a second and we are laughing. Only other move I'd look at is tempting Georgiades but with Grundy on our books i don't think we'd have the cap space for it. Otherwise we are set up even better than last year and get to add two more premium talents over the next few years.

It's hilarious how much Macrae's name gets butchered. In all seriousness we showed the recipe for success in round 9, shut down the source Libba and you beat the dogs.

I was pretty certain Ralphy is a dees supporter, you wouldn't think it though as a lot of his stuff is anti-melbourne. Ralphy constantly gets it wrong with his dees reporting though, the only one that gets reliable information out of Melbourne is Jay Clark.

To me this reeks of Isaac Smith burning us last year holding off for Geelong to finish their finals campaign to come out and nominate them as his club of choice. Can sense Cerra doing a similar thing burning Carlton waiting for us to finish our campaign. If he was set on Carlton he probably would've nominated them by now.

We could easily strike a deal. If Freo are so hell bent on first round picks then: We land a pick in the 20-30's for Weid (Probably from North, GC, or Coll) Package up that pick with our second rounder to send to the dogs for their first (they need points for Darcy) Dogs 1st + Our Future First for Cerra (even though I think that's overs).