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Langdon excellent but my vote goes to Burgess

I’m not about knee jerk reactions. Absolutely the pros and cons need to be weighed up and properly considered. It’s more the heart and soul arguments I take issue with. You’re correct about Williams. Thanks for putting be right there.

Thank for the correction WWSW. Shannon Byrnes. Jeez. A very underwhelming 2 years at the club. I think Williams is a safer bet though.

I agree Deever. Weids is at best a no.2. He doesn’t have the presence to lead the line. We need to bring in a key forward. It’s our no.1 need. If Hogan is gettable I’d bring him back. Agree options are limited. I’d worry if we leave Jackson in the forward line with an under-performing Weids alone. He needs to be taking the 3rd best defender. Allow him time to develop. Otherwise he’ll be added to the list of players whose development has been mismanaged by the club.

There’s a thread on this forum about ruthlessness. I think it’s time this club displayed some. When weighting up a trade you have to consider what you get in return. It’s been mentioned here we’d get a first round compensation pick. That’s overs for Jack in my mind. I agree that he leads by example and is consistent of effort. And that’s not nothing. But when he had the captaincy last year he was poor and didn’t handle it well. It affected his game (although no doubt injury played a part as well). His skills are limited and let him down too often. We have a tendency to over rate our players. There haven’t been too many players who have left this club recently and been a success elsewhere and I reckon Jack will be no different. If we get a first round pick which we use to secure Zac Williams we will have improved our list imo.

We’ve had plenty of passengers the last 2 games but I can’t see us winning tonight if Weideman has another poor game. He needs to lift otherwise I don’t see where the goals are going to come from.

It’s much easier to point to the countless number of clubs and administrations who had plenty of passionate club people involved and were not successful. You feel that the club needs one Melbourne person involved. Fair enough. But I would like to know why exactly. What quality does a Melbourne person bring to the table that a non-Melbourne person doesn’t have and how does this quality lead to better decisions? Brendan Gale and Peggy O’Neal are successful because they are competent and know what they are doing not because they are Richmond people. Do you think if they were at other clubs they won’t be successful and if so, why?

I want to see people in leadership roles who have the aptitude for the job. Too many people think passion and enthusiasm translate into competency and good decisions. They don’t. In fact, the opposite is usually true as our track record over the past 50 years proves (Jim Stynes being the lone exception).

Why do you think it wasn't a shrewd move? Do you think we should have held on? And if yes, why?

We wouldn’t get the same price now, not even close, and would be lumbered with a venue which is a drain on cash (running, maintenance costs etc. but no income due to covid). The cash from the sale is banked and provides a buffer so we are not reliant on the AFL to prop us up and therefore beholden to them. An inspired decision as it turned out.

Selling the Leighoak club has turned out to be quite a shrewd move. He deserves more time because of that move alone. I thought his spray after the Port game was perfectly timed as well. I don’t think Bartlett should be the focus at the moment at all. There are always people looking to get on footy boards. It’s the easiest story in the world to peddle. Politics is a sh*tty business and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s someone from the FD who fed this story to Wilson to take the spotlight of themselves.

And her tone. Her tone always grates with me.

I got to the end and wondered why I bothered to read it. Same old back room gossip and tittle tattle from Wilson. Her stock in trade.

puts paid to the Viney or Brayshaw in midfield debate for 2020 and perhaps beyond. Which of them will return i wonder?

No

They have the pick of Western Australia, benefit from home town umpiring, excellent club facilities, winning tradition, very good coach, competent list management, proven player development program, sponsors and money. I might have missed some.

hmmm.... where in the first round?

Mathematically yes. Sportbet price is $6. Not very appealing odds.

His career has been cruelled by injury. He is obviously not fit. If Burgess can’t get him right then I’m not sure anyone can. Hawthorn have a lot of faith in their medical team so perhaps they might take the chance. Very sad to see as I like Tmac.

It wasn’t a soft interview imv. The boys had to tread a fine line between going too hard and risk never getting an interview with Pert again (and he wouldn’t answer the questions anyways) and going too soft in which case the whole thing becomes pointless. There was plenty of corporate speak but that’s the norm for these type of interviews. Talk of frustration, passion, traits, qualities is fluff but these questions allowed Pert to get comfortable and rhyme off his responses. The question about the final 2 games caught him off balance, he wasn’t expecting it and his answer spoke volumes. My read is Goodwin is coaching for his job these last 2 games.

My preference is we make finals, see where how far we go, and sack Goodwin anyways.

Good interview. Well played Naughtsie to sneak in that question about Goodwin and the last 2 games. He caught Pert off-guard and he obviously wasn’t expecting it. His response was far from a ringing endorsement.

I assume there was a consultation process with the clubs given the unique nature of covid fixturing. If there was then the club hasn’t fought its corner very well. Perhaps they thought with Burgess on board they could deal with it. There was a lot of big talk before the Port game about how the 4 day turnaround didn’t matter, they could handle it, no excuses, rah rah. 5 minutes into the game put paid to that pipe dream. Chalk it down to another learning.

Bring in either Tmac or Brown for Preuss. I’m not fussed which one. Don’t care about other changes tbh. It’s just shuffling the deck chairs. But for the love of God can we bring some intensity and urgency.

Granted its too early to tell but they have played a lot better over the last 12 months. Percentage over a hundred compared to sixty last year reflects that. I guess we’ll see whether he’s ultimately successful.