Lord Nev

1. Sure, but you kinda said 'so it's not an indicator, but here's how I think it's an indicator....' And referenced a post that talks about MG as an indicator of fitness. 2. Correlation and causation. Because metres gained indicates disposals, game style and the link then performance of your opponent will directly impact it as well. We had only 5,682 total metres gained against Collingwood in round 21 yet many have commented about how it was the fittest we've looked for weeks. We had a whopping 6.953 metres gained in round 15 against Brisbane, yet that is the week after many believe we started our heavy loading period. It just doesn't add up accurately. 3. I didn't say our style changed. But quality of opponent, defensive pressure, personnel, success of the game style will all impact our ability to have high metres gained numbers in comparison to our average. For example - the Brisbane game above, we had 35 rebound 50s, the Collingwood game above we had 25. That's one factor that would impact our metres gained total.

Now you're talking. Or even the 'repeat sprints' one that is talked about. That kind of thing is a better indicator I reckon than something that is mostly due to disposals. Champion Data hoard all that stuff though don't they?

Jack Watts once had a game in the negatives for metres gained. Must have been dead...

Christian Petracca leads the Dees for average metres gained. There is no chance he is our fittest player or covers the most kms per game. Using MG as a metric for fitness doesn't stack up IMO. It's more a measure of style of football. We rebound, especially off turnovers and deliver the ball deep, particularly when we're playing well, this means our metres gained number goes up as we're not chipping backwards. In terms of fatigue - a team/player may simply decide to 'go long' more often to save the running, this would then increase their metres gained. Too many holes in this theory I think. Again, "run and carry" is irrelevant here - Metres gained is a total of distance ran with the ball, distance you kick it and distance you handball it. Unless you have the breakdown of the percentage of each of those in relation to MG then it's not an accurate measure of fitness or distance covered. To add to that, one of our strengths is how players run when not in possession, yet that's not even touched on by MG.

Hang on, metres gained includes kicking and handballing as well as running. How would it be an accurate measure of fitness in that case?

Wouldn't blame him if true. Shame to lose him though.

The LJ budget space becomes the Grundy budget space I suppose. Weid is a fair chance to be traded (if we find anyone interested), but his wage off the books won't make any difference at all, he'd be on very very little. Tommo still contracted and handy depth, won't be going anywhere. There may be other players who make way though. But if you think about who we've re-signed the last 2 years and who we have to sign the next 2, it makes sense we'd be mostly looking at the draft for now.

We're also red hot in the salary cap. We may opt for picks more in the next couple of years than we have in the last couple.

Take out his run ups and it's about 3km per game... ;)

The problem is, that's already backfired badly for us once when the whole Yarra Park debacle happened.

I personally trust the premiership winning list management team to get it done the right way...

Yep absolutely, and all those coaches (Scott would be an exclusion given his first year) had their times when their jobs were in jeopardy somewhat. Maybe. I don't think that just because Rutten didn't work that every other 'first time coach' wouldn't work as well. For mine, more about getting one who has gone through all the training and processes, has experience and success, and then making sure they get the best they can to surround them with in terms of assistants, list management, footy boss etc etc.

If you look at the premierships of the last 15 years or so the vast majority are 'first time coaches'. It's more about the development and experience before taking the top job, Yze has that in spades now.

🤣 “I was having a swim down at Prahran pool just before this and ran into a mate and he’s good friends with Steven May and James Harmes and the boys, and they said, ‘If we can keep Maysy and Harmesy and Melky and Hibbo off the p--- for four weeks we’ll waltz into a flag,”

Ah yes, 'modern' theme songs, what could go wrong....

Not exactly that stat, but for the year so far we're rated 14th for 4th quarter percentage. We've lost 10 4th quarters this year. (We're 1st for 1st quarter percentage)

Memory is a little foggy from the broadcast, but didn't they say it was more about winning and keeping the oppo under 60 points? I think it might have been Nathan Jones who talked about it pre-game somewhere.

I might message ya mate as some stuff I don't wanna post here, but as far as I know he's very very keen to be a senior coach so the GWS job was an option and moving the family was on the table - After that I haven't heard what changed which is what makes me wonder about Essendon.

Don't disagree mate, but he's very very keen to be a senior coach.

Pretty sure they meet more than that. I remember hearing Kane Cornes talk about an upcoming committee meeting only a week or so ago.

Not even gonna complain. 6 in the squad is sensational, used to only ever dream of the day! Whether he makes it or not, congrats to Fritta too!

Possibly, but I also know he wasn't super keen on moving the family while still at school. Wherever he goes he will be successful anyway I reckon. (I'd just hate it to be at Essendon)

Have a really bad feeling this might be due to Essendon, but I'm hoping not... *This was done. Yze was going to be heading there. The only hesitation was moving the family but it was all set. That was until Rutten was sacked. (*From a VERY good source this time)

Wouldn't mind a bit of analysis around our clearance quality and forward structure/efficiency since we put Jacko in the middle more and Gawn forward. Not 100% sold yet on Gawn as a forward, although that's maybe due to the goal kicking more than anything else, but since Jacko has gone into the ruck it seems we've got back a bit of that 'Bang Bang Bang Bang'. Gus could be an influence in that too maybe given his clearance numbers? It's also possibly a preview to how we would setup next year should Grundy come across.