kev martin

Good if we do win, as it will bring some moments of joy, but losing is not uncomfortable for me, There will be some disappointment, but on a whole this season has already given plenty.

You also want others to think like you. You give no room for some who don’t need to win everything to be satisfied, as shown by your vomit emoji to me.

Many fail, because of the preparation. Habits take alot of time to perfect. Habits lead to addiction and addictions can destroy us, by creating dysfunction and prioritising some behaviours that interfere with things we should be doing. I would also suggest that high flyers have difficulty adjusting once the razzle dazzle subsides. They were driven to attaining one type of thing and forgot to gain wisdom on how to live contently. Prepare yourself to deal with failure.

Why is a view that is different to yours a strange mindset? Why use a condescending manner? Are you upset with me because of the way I think? As I said, seems my outlook has ruffled your feathers. I am not speaking for the club or the players, I am speaking about what gives me satisfaction, Those who want to climb to the top of Mt. Everest can do it and I will applaud them. Whether it is MFC or not. I however, would be grateful just to get to Nepal. I am grateful to see MFC play matches, and enjoy, no matter the outcome. Most ambitious people don't share my view of wanting and accepting the average. For me average is a great place to be. Maintenance is more valuable to me than achievements. So long as I have a cosy place to sleep, and food, then I am pretty satisfied. Many in this world don't have that every day. I am grateful for the small things. The world beaters, have all their priorities askew, and I believe have really stuffed "it" up, in their quest to outdo each other. From the politics of gender, class and race, to our environment, to the structure and use of commodities, capital and power. There is no room for many to enjoy this sacred thing, life. As the many are repulsed by the competitive, uncompassionate, hedonistic winner take all approach to being, creating a world of far too much suffering. Not satisfied unless we win more! How oblivious to the real world can you be! By the way, how do you know the mindset of the AFL players? You can win and play for fun at the same time, it is a game.

Gee I really ruffle your feathers @faultydet, you offer a vomit emoji to me because I don’t see winning as the prime object in sport or in life. My ideology is play fair and share, enjoy the challenge and compete with gusto. Winning, nah, usually can't even be bothered keeping score when I play. The word play as I like it defined: "engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose." Wow, caught up in the illusion of needing to be at the pinnacle so as to be satisfied! If that is the attitude of an adult, would much rather be seen as having a teenagers mind set.

Those wanting a powerhouse of a club deminish my support of a middle of the road one, over the past 50 years. I have learnt that my joy should not be determined by winning (unlike some on this thread), but by my participation as a supporter, riding the waves and watching our beautiful game as a whole. Aussie rules, in it together, from local and upwards.

I am taking a selfish approach. I am happy with our season. It has given me joy. Who knows about tomorrow, maybe, maybe not. That speculation will not destroy my satisfaction in this moment. I have enjoyed the ride so far.

What do you have against teenagers?

I'm happy and grateful. @faultydet, you need too much. A flag probably isn’t enough for you. Enjoy the moments we have.

The season has given me plenty already. Two more wins, great. Happy with small mercies, and accepting of failing to clear the last hurdles. Best year, so-far that I have experienced. The run of wins, being on top of ladder, winning the big games, our not give up style, players reaching their potential and exceeding it, plenty of media attention and MFC giving time to social networking through the internet. Go Dees.

I was watching training at the time when Watts was singled out as not training well. I couldn't see it. He appeared to be the best kick and was instrumental in setting up plays during simulations. My guess, something off field or behind closed doors affected his standing at the club.

Not entirely Smith. It was Rivers decision to handball to where he thought a player would be. Could have lifted his eyes and had a look for someone who wanted it, perhaps, hold onto it and take the tackle. Rivers seemed rushed and made a poor decision, though Smith didn't help him.

Yes you are right, just looking at the replay now, the second of Brisbane's. Smith turned his back on the play making it difficult for Rivers. Was caught watching the man and not helping Rivers, who expected Smith to be running for him. Apologies for jumping the gun and going of my first look.

We had the ball, then River's fumbles the ball with his disposal, ending up in Cameron's lap. Tough to stop when he has a step on his opponent. Got Cameron going.

I agree, Smith seems to be more of a see ball go after it. A back needs to make the judgement of, cover the man and space first, and then go get the ball. They are educating him but realy should train to his strengths and nature. Would like to see him further up field next season.

I don't get the scapegoating of Smith. Some of Cameron's goals came from others mistakes (Rivers nervousness), a bit of luck (handball over the head), and a nearly, with a touch on the ball that wasn't quite enough. There were also other defenders in the areas and with our zoning roles can't expect shoulder to shoulder defense. It has been shown throughout the season that a player has to have quite a few "off" days to get omitted. He should be getting "match fit" now, especially with the week of Burgess's fitness regime, will be better next time. His ability to jell with the others is the worry. Has he got more time? The cohesion can only be improving with more games. Hunty will be lucky to break into the side, only because we seem to value continuity. Though we have missed his run off the backflanks and his energy. Big decision as to whether to drop Smith for Hunt. I can see Smith making a good flexible medical sub.

Game being ruined by umpires poor decisions. In a grinding, wrestling game there are soft frees everywhere. Let them play. Though amazed at the number of throws that aren't called. The players seem to appeal everything, reminds me of cricket.

Feeling a bit wired and flustered. One game to go (maybe two), and a two week wait to play. Usually watching the finals as a kind of neutral supporter with a small lean to the underdog. Wow, in the box seat! Winning games when we are favourites, can't remember when we did that on a regular basis. Such a great year, like a 'coming of age" story. Such a great week, all Australians, a rising star, a captain, a coaches award, then this win. Go Dees!

Greene was riled up over the free that was turned over because he fended-off into the neck of an opponent. It will be paramount to the MRO what the umpire says about the incident. It appears Greene walked at the shoulder of the umpire. The umpire moved in synchronisation so as to avoid contact. Did not seem a malicious act, more of a brain fade. Not a good look.

Oliver for me as BOG. Those kicks into the 50 were beautiful, as were his hands when collecting the ball and his run and support around the field made a difference.

Great game, held off their attempted comeback. Oliver gets very little protection from the umpires. The lions came out in the third to ruffle us, didn't work. We play either GWS or Cats, after they bash each other up, enjoy the break Dees and set for the big games. Tmac is a worry. Can't get rolling since being out. Frontrunners all game. Hibbo was geeing Bowey up pregame, good work. We have a pressure game, Lions we're always scrambling. Good coaching, ready to play, then got challenged and overran them. Fitter, stronger, smarter. Thought we kept lots of their players out the game. We still have to take our opportunities at scoring goals, when they are there.

Many of the Lions players are down on output. The time the Lions looked best was when they are forcing and surging the ball forward. That takes plenty of energy, and they aren't getting easy ball movement. Our fitness will set us well. They are playing a game we are forcing them into, which suits our style. Sparrow doing plenty of link work. Oliver, wow, disposal are impacting big time. River a bit nervous. We are marking everywhere. Forwards working well. Great pressure footy, made it too hard for them. Expect them to come out with changes to style and with fire. Go Dees!

Don't do it. Clear heads, deal better with reality.

I think it will depend on the umpires report about the incident. It didn’t appear malicious, more a brain fade.

He is a tough, courageous player. If they don't damage him, he will play better with that bit of physical motivation. One of those players that are best left alone, unless it is to suck him into a stupid act.