kev martin

I believe we will get the best from Tracc on the field in 2025. He has to keep his trade value high.

This may just blow over. No club will deal with his contract. The players know, and have a bond that includes multi-generational in a variety of leagues. It is why the MFC can "celebrate" end of season with him. Bridges aren't burnt. Gives us plenty to get entertained about in a finals series that we are not included in. We are on the lips of the media hordes. Must have taken a leaf out of the Collingwood play book. That's branding.

Hoping Tracc is more Dada like. "The art, poetry and performance produced by dada artists is often satirical and nonsensical in nature."

He could follow A.Yze to Richmond to help with their rebuild (they have the biggest membership). They have plenty of draft pics and Lynch. Don't fight for a player who doesn't want to be at MFC. Can only be disruptive to us, and without being driven he could let himself decline. Most big professional leagues around the world transfer players all the time. AFL has been an outlier, though is catching up. Tracc is part of the world's high performance athletes, and expects what that cohort does.

Bump has to be finished with now, as any player bumping has to watch for the opposition player fending it off with their head. No self duty of care required. Moore new Kossie was going to bump, and lowered his body.

Wow click bait for the pessimists, the negatives and the told you so groupies. It is not over, we still have two games to play. Winning isn't everything. I like being a spectator, and will enjoy listening to these last games. Do you mean not making finals, not being competitive, or not a grandfinals contender? All that doesn't detract me from enjoying the game. We are still a competitive team. Those expressing this realistic though sour assessment are bad losers. We got beaten by better teams on the day. If a few of the close results went our way, the season appraisal would've been different Hoping we still build and don't fall down further. I guess the geniuses expressing prophecy on this site, already know.

I'll try a theory. From my recollection, at the time of the introduction to night footy (friday), the MFC didn't get too many look ins. When we did get a night game it was in the middle of winter. My generation didn't get condition to attending and we saw most friday night games from the comfort of our own lounges. After the introduction of Saturday night games and the subsequent popularity to attend, did the night fixtures get going. I also recollect that there was a delayed start to the broadcast, which encouraged attending. We oldies are still prone to watch lesser attended games from the home, given cost, late finishes, and live broadcasts.

We have been shown to have a soft belly, at times lacking will power, and ruthlessness. We are very much a momentum team. When not going our way we struggle to get it back on our terms. It is our brand and culture that Goody has struggled with. His attempt to express what we stand for strikes me more as about hope then reality. If Goody goes and he walks into a club (many would have him) with strong values then his job would have to be easier. He works hard to get them playing for the jumper etcetera. It just takes time, persistence, and resilience to bolster our culture. Ever tried to change your personality. That is what he is up against. Stick with him, he is good for the club. If our brand doesn't change then it is not on him but on the entire organisation. Harden up MFC.

I like the MFC supporters base. Rarely Boo inappropriately, they have a good feel for the game, applaud great play from either team, knowledgeable of the rules, don't make ridiculous calls to the umpires, humble, happy, and many more virtues. Would not want to be a supporter of Woods, Blues, Bombs, or Coasters. I don't know enough about the SA teams fans. If getting big crowds turns us into similar packs of narcissistic fanatics it would diminish my joy of the game. Our suupport isn't perfect, though it's qualities are much better than many. We are the type supporters base I like belonging to. Go Dees

I think @Abyssal has stated he does not "spew vitriolic" statements about MFC players. I think he goes into bat for those who do, which has created the confusion.

I think there are many who go "all in", till they move on to something else. It is all about entertaining our moments. The keyboard warriors love those moments, and the attention they get. Doesn't mean they stay doing the same thing. Many move on, experiences in this world are vast and varied, as we find other entertaining/passionate ways. It's a big wide world, don't get stuck in the safety of home and in the same job for the 50 years. Take a risk, as certainty and stability is overrated and unattainable. The fair weatherers come back when we win (not a good trait). Most just come and go as their life moves forward. Because they move on, doesn't mean they are not, haven't been or won't be again, passionate about the MFC.

Heard some pre-game statistics of us making the four, about 3%, making the eight, 30 %. A loss, zero chance of making the four. Many aren't investing in the season after such a dominant few years. The exit out of finals in straight sets when we were strong doesn't instill confidence in us fighting. We have now returned to the many decades of us relying on other teams results just to get in the finals series. Post traumatic shock of us being easy beats and of course the ski season having a shorter period (if there is snow you better go), is my guess for the poor showing. Personal reason is, I am out of the country. I don't mind the fair weatherers jumping, as I enjoy the open spaces in the good viewing areas, and as I am vocal, I won't get the ire of the opposition's supporters. Though GWS fans have never retaliated to my incessant and inane voice. Go Dees

They often turn up on mass at the Gosh's training. On special days they can be seen collecting awards for their work, other times they are part of the community campaigns, as guests observe the trackers. The numbers can vary from a handful, to the entire admin staff. Seems the club will work hard to be connected, given the non optimal situation of the physical separation of departments.

I listened to the game. I was "informed" by professionals who call the game. I have opinions from that broadcast. Often people get the same input only to have differing interpretations. Dismiss me, but that is from your prejudice and not reality. You are pandering to the spectators who are doubters and fair weather supporters.

From my journey through life, the stereotypical success is overrated. Greedy, acquiring, worshipped, you become weighed down and lose joy of the moment. The struggle creates neuroses. Be free of the outcome, or join the stoics, expect the worse hope for the best. Success tends to hide that there us something wrong, it doesn't promote self reflection or a reflection on life. I think that is why many in powerful societal roles get out of touch with the experiences of majority of us. Be childlike, with every experience being a new one, the result becomes irrelevant.

25 responses to my attack on the venters, most telling me, to let them be, to move on and not mention the criticism. Don't go at the crowd. As for "you" having an affliction, I do it for my own gratification. I want to read a balanced board, not one taken over by hubris. Being put down for offering some direction. Typical of the heads in the sand, don't talk about it people. Can't understand the superficial. Life is a deep dive into the amazing.

But, the venters hit up straight away in the first. Not good reading for someone looking for game info.

I think they do both. Behaviour, causes habits and then addiction.

Why the personal attacks? I am not Confucius.

I may be strange, it is only a footy game. Doesn't mean I am not passionate about MFC and AFL. I enjoy the game and have for decades. I am not so tribal or divisive, and can find my life not being turned upside down because of a loss. I enjoy a win and take a loss in a sportsmanship way. I get this from participating in competitions and not the media that thrives on us having divisions.

I am not upset. Merely trying to change a few of the perspectives. Those wallowing could be happier with a change in their thoughts. I like the moments I live. To win or lose is not so important to me, the journey is my joy. Success is overated. If only the praise would be expressed more. The criticism always seem to be in greater numbers. Reading the venom is not much fun, and shows a lack of self understanding by the authors. You're the second person to say I shouldn't post. What is that about? Good luck group thinkers. A dissenting voice to the "realists" and "venters" should not heard!

I understand it. Just don't get how it makes joy with that type of perspective. Focusing on the negative is a protective behaviour, so you don't do it again. Though you will all be back again for more of it. Sadistic or change the behaviour. Repeating the way is not in your best interest.

Agree, but that seems to be were we are at. The leader aren't quire right.

I am not a stand back person. Not stopping the vent, no chance you can change others, that is up to them. Merely bewildered by such an approach to being. Addit; the venting was there very early in the game, same happened last week.

I am reading the demonland threads. Yes you are right, judging all the sourness and misery.