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We must have been 3rd quarter kings! Because we dropped off badly in the last early in the season and last few weeks!

Flower (maybe my age bias) Oliver (till 2023 agree) Max Petracca Kozzie (little bit best yet to come and could go higher) Farmer Lyon Neitz Stynes Schwartz & Jakovich both cruel led by injury & could have been anything Notables: Wells, Alves Flower, Kozzie, Farmer, Schwartz & Jakovich could all do the unbelievable, such a pity last two injury challenged! 70’s and onward stars, never saw Barassi play as a Demon!

Hinkley for head of strategy at the Demons perhaps

If we were to lose Petracca you would definitely take Butters!

Awesome! But who what where? What do we trade?

Not necessarily! Need some new blood and improvement from current players. When Fly joined Pies they were supposedly cooked, a change in style, attitude and voice, meant they changed! So it can happen! Yes, before someone states the obvious “Fly took over from Bucks”.

Langford, Lindsay and Windsor have all shown plenty of signs they will make it! One of Kentfield, Jefferson, White turns into a reasonable Key position player and. Two of Mentha, Kolt, AMW or Sinema come through Add a draft pick and trade one player who some through and makes a big difference!

Thanks for the year Andy, Binman & George the time and effort you put into the podcast is greatly appreciated and commendable! While reasonable effort a Disappointing finish! The concerns: poor decision making in last qtr, happened too often last two seasons! Skills when it counts, went missing! Backline too slow, Salem, May & McDonald! Add Lever! Also think Petty! McVee shocking season! How much of a shake up is required? The need for some speed & skill! Forward line Petty not doing enough, Sparrow too many errors, Chandler did he play 2nd half and seems to start season well and gradually go down hill, JVR okay and hopefully better next year! The need for some speed & skill! In the guts also need for some speed and skill - might come in future from Windsor, Lindsay, Langdon & Rivers in mix! Promise: Midfield Max still gold! Rivers needs to learn how to settle when he has the ball! Oliver nearly back, Trac further to go, Kossie can’t do it all the time but still kicks 2! Fritsch showed his class. Langdon looks a ripper! Question: Who can we lose and what do we need? Biggest areas of ground we need to address?

Oliver & Petracca have both showed some signs of improvement as season has progressed! Options trade: - Petracca maybe get a first round pick in a weak draft. Oliver have to wear some his salary and take a late 1st rounder or 2nd round pick. Don’t trade and hope new coach can get the best out of both players. Trac should be physically and hopefully mentally better next season after horrific injury of last season! Oliver getting fitter and seemingly more confident as season progressed! Personally I’d keep for one more season!

Vs Geelong

Brayshaw knew where to position himself on the field and particularly supporting the defence! Also glue off the field! When you see how Pendlebury got the Pies home on Saturday, you realise the impact of missing Brayshaws on field contribution!

Coolx2 this year Jeremy Cameron is the one player in the league to kick 3 goals per year! He is a forward! Kossie is averaging 2 per game, the only mid forward to do so! 15 players have kicked more goals than Kossie this year, all permanent forwards! Kossie is a star and well worth the money being paid. Look at the games Demons won and his influence!

How many current players in the AFL last 10 years average over 3 goals per game?

Saw a couple of articles on Ben Brown but most notably on 2021 flag. Personally he had lost all confidence and forgotten how to play, stripped it back to few key items particularly competing and got some confidence back just in time to help win flag. He noted how few injuries we had and how fit the team was leading into finals series. Then on the big day, 19 points behind in 3rd quarter and Oliver, Petracca & Jackson unleashed! Post 2021 his knee realistically gone, so basically it ended up we got him in won flag and he was done. Re culturally he said footy clubs have their challenges and Demons weren’t perfect but not everything bad, also highlighted the impact of losing Brayshaw!

Richmond have Lynch why would they be interested. Saints maybe. If Buckley is Demons coach, would imagine increases likelihood of Mihocek coming to us, as Buckley gave Mihocek his initial opportunity!

Buckley brings: coaching experience, 110 secs from a flag as someone mentioned above Credibility in the industry, Trac, Oliver & co. Will respect him and might even listen to him. 2nd time round will know mistakes he previously made. Buckley will draw players to the club like Roos. You only need a few. And also draw some coaching & fitness talent! it’s not all bad: Another poster said we lack impact aside from Max, Kossie has impact, Trac of old has impact showed glimpses against Hawks & Dogs! As mentioned in another post get Oliver to handball more to better ball users! There are a multitude of changes that can be made to improve our lot! Trading out Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Fritsch when you get next to nothing won’t really help. But getting them back to near their best will. Smart drafting and trading can make a big difference, Hawks been very clever I this regard. The board simply lost faith in him! Since 2021 flag with supposedly dynasty team has gone backwards each year and after 0-5 start this year, then the coach killer last qtr against the Saints being the final straw! Personally feel we were unlucky in 2023 with injuries and the mess at board and administration level made life tough for Goodwin since 2021 flag. Hopefully new Chairman in Smith, new CEO in Guerra, new coach, hopefully a new home Caulfield and some other assistant coaching and fitness changes provides an opportunity to start relatively fresh and leave the past behind! Richardson will likely go at end of 2026!

After a poor losing season and coach getting the bullet, confidence is rock bottom and skill execution follows!

I’d say poor, but hi season has been a 3-4 out of 10, his best we miss, how he has played this year not so much. Would rather he stats and gets in a strong pre season, then we should see much better form!

Max is incredible! Trac and Oliver combining showed some signs today, not enough, but perhaps Buckley as coach can get their best out of them again! Every Demon forward should rewatch Gunston leading from today, simple & smart. Also our coaches should look at how Hawks always have a forward drifting into the area 15-40 metres in front of goal, again simple, but wins easy marks and shots in front of goal, they also did it against Pies last week. Hawks are well disciplined!

Items for discussion: are we fit enough, seemed like Hawks gave us the run around? Do we need a new tackling coach, as Hawks seemed to break out of tackles often? Skills were unbelievably sloppy, is a major part lack of confidence?

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Being time poor over simplified things! A new coach typically brings some new assistants, perhaps new fitness people etc., can all add to making a difference. Player wise, a good draft pick, a father/son, the right trade and some luck with a left field late draft pick and you can pick up four players that make you better! I feel Hawks have done this exceptionally well with Chol, Gunston, Dear and some of their vfl picks! Then last year added battle & Barass!

According to all the experts Trac & Oliver are finished. Said experts predicted Pies too old in 2022 and Cats in 2021! A new coach and a few new players can have a transformative impact! That’s what I’m hoping happens! Go Demons!

Is it: Perhaps the players should have performed better! Game plan not good enough! Playing list not as good as we think! Players slow learners as after 4 years still can’t kick to advantage if forwards nor forwards lead to good positions!

Definitely anti Demons! World champion sour puss and lemon sucker!