The end is nigh

Given mihocek requested a trade, I suspect we will wait and see what spargos compo is. Would rather they took May off our hands as a trade, hope they’re not rude about it and make it very easy. Future 4th round swaps is what it should be. Realistically for a player his age it shouldn’t dilute any compensation pick anyways. He’s 8 years older than spargo!

Pick 7 is far more than anything people on here are willing to throw down and I suspect they’ll take it and hope to make it a large part of the Trac trade. Personally (and with zero intel) I foresee the Trac circumstance dragging way out until a lot of other pieces are on the table. Flanders would be(/have been) a good pick up, still hoping Humphrey a huge one. Best of luck in the posturing Melbourne

Okay I’ll bite too. Got you on ignore because of your guesses of teams coming out (sometimes educated but often missing key information) but off season stuff I can engage. Jack Macrae was winning AA blazers for fun and was the best ball winner in the comp there for a couple years. Banged up now and lost the pace but he has had a gun career. An insult to have him dropping in the draft.

Carlton’s TDK compo pick for our future 1st. They’re keen to do such a move for Walker points next year. This would satisfy Gold Coast far more. Still unsure whether it’s enough.

That’s the message Clayton took from it

Feel like he’ll be back in front of the media before long, addressing his chat with Oliver. Which as a brand new coach, discussing roles for the future shouldn’t be a surprise. Makes sense he’d want to have a face to face and a clear agreement of the future ahead. FWIW I don’t think he was telling Oliver to seek a trade. I think/hope he was just making things clear about how he’d like him to return day one and what will be expected. If he’s to bulk up or slim down. Better he knows now

This is the end of culture, we now have environment

If I have to watch George Gawn in any other colours I’ll be shattered. Hard even listening to him sing other teams songs now

I’d be happy to have him on our list, we have a lot of spots to fill and too few draft picks. Two years on low money provided he ticks medical and Steven king vibe check.

King will surely use preseason to rejuvenate some players who’ve stagnated slightly. I’d like to see Bowey and Salem as rotating in the spargo HFF deliverer role, and BP outlet kick. Watching hawthorn in the finals it was obvious that players despite not playing spots all year don’t cry when put somewhere unfamiliar understand it’s not rocket surgery. Take the role given and try your best to impact. Hoping king has game day tactics like this. If petty isn’t kicking goals, throw disco forward and petty back. Don’t worry about him dropping his head, he won’t have time (and won’t have to worry about a chirpy May) So as for a 22, irrelevant. Pick from the squad of players ready to go based on fitness form and troubling the opposition.

My hope of the situation now is we make him do a medical and than instantly and publicly withdraw all offers knowing he’s cooked. And have him crawl back to Collingwood. Nothing good comes from trading with them. We give them steel men of value like Howes and Dunn who are serviceable until beyond expectation and they give us wilted picks like Kennedy or headaches like heritier. Let’s not forget the damage Neeld did to the club. Lose their number. Better yet block it.

Steak knives in a Trac-Flanders deal.

Bruce was approached regarding the head coach vacancy and declined the process.

Is this his way of getting a Brownlow invite?

Apologies. This move. Started well before we had a coach that we SHOULD have interest. JVR, Jefferson, kentfield and Johnson on the list, not to mention petty. Any more on the list and somebody is playing out of position regularly. Are other lists carrying 6 key forwards?

Any time we have taken anything from Collingwood in my living memory it has set us back and done them no harm. This trade feels like a media driven narrative rather than us seeking it out. I don’t fear an aging mihocek tearing us apart next kings birthday, nor do I see him causing them any difficulty if he came to us. Let them split their fanbase by either keeping him or delisting him. If we don’t take him, nobody else will either. If they really want us to take him we should make them an offer, give May a two year deal with a trigger for a third too and we will.

But then petty would have a golfing buddy

Something in me says the moment we get another club to give May a two year deal, mcvee signs a new deal. Also call me crazy but if Trac goes to the crows, any chance we can prise out that Neal Bullen lad? Really think he has something we could use.

My thoughts on it today were adding a death ride campaign back into things. Pick 23 and 2026 future 1st to Carlton Carlton’s future 1st to us Carlton’s (TDK, or if the silvagni one is end of 1st rnd and enough) compo pick to gc for Flanders Carlton get to death ride us and have Walker coming in next year, need max points. Also their compo is likely to get eaten up by a bid on dean this year. Main concern is if Carlton have enough to get the trade over the line and can sell Flanders on a single colour jumper, we are in trouble. But if he nominates the dees, it’s a good starting point if not a fair trade all round. There may be quibbling for extras, but also a chance it’s an absolute steal for us if we jump Carlton on the ladder next year.

Hoping king and Flanders both publicly endorse a trade to us at the beginning of trade period and we hawthorn them down to unders. Pick 23 as a starting point and eventually roll our eyes late in the piece and give them a future third with it. I feel safe picturing Flanders locked into a high accumulation/distribution role off half back.

I’d be far happier to see us linked to Jed Walters, but can’t see us having a way to make it happen. Also on the amiss side of things, my biggest concern is that mcvee might be testing the waters and we need to have a reasonable play at getting something back.

I’m at a point where I’d like to see change. Given Scott is sounding like Melbourne last year huffing about contracts I don’t see Merrett moving. If the trades we got for moving on petracca and Tholstrop netted us back Flanders and amiss (and we held onto ANY first rounder for next year) I’d be very happy with our list management. Flanders is a prime ball mover, and has shown he has capacity to be a 30-40 touch player when white hot. He gets shunted out of position up at Gold Coast and if we had a Trac sized hole I think he would find that a clear opening to set himself up in. Amiss is an upgrade on any of our kpf and whilst I’d love kentfield jeffo and JVR to all be demanding spots round one next year with undeniable form, at this stage we still have petty being first picked out of the goal square, when I think most supporters (including me) would rather see him set up shop in mays neck of the woods.

I don’t think any would decline the b&f with bad blood, and also wouldn’t be surprised to see some do medicals or train on with another club given their ages, hoping to impress enough to fill a final list spot. Despite not making the cut at the highest level, I’d expect all these guys to still command a good wage at local/country level and to tear it up. Go well, former dees 🫡

Hopefully they’ve upped his offer to playing for Melbourne.

My two cents on possible list change, and direct structural correlation of the list: Hore out for Derksen (key def depth) Fullarton out for heath (ruck back up) Brown out for windhager (def running mid) Verrall out for white (project ruck) Billings out for Sinnema (outside user) Given moniz Wakefield and mcadam are back on the list, woey and Henderson drop off Spargo to try his luck at north? If not, year by year extensions. (If so, son of Walsh as a rookie pick up?) Sestan has shown some assets but needs a strong preseason to be considered for AFL opportunity. Hoping McVee and the new coach have a simple discussion and he signs for 2-4 years. All of the outs will net nothing in draft capital. And the ins likely cost us future picks (heath for future 3rd/4th swap?, derksen for future 4th?) as well as most of our hand this year (windhager-23, white 52, sinnema 59 🤞😈🤞) All of this amounts to a little rejuvenation and cleanout of some clogged spots which hopefully results in a few surprises. Feels a little bland, but hoping the coaching staff overhaul brings the excitement. If we are to improve next year, i think it’s on the back of Windsor Lindsay and Langford establishing and Trac and clarry doing Trac and clarry things again.