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How do I best reconcile a loss or a tight win on Monday a) Goodwin has no plan B b) We're keeping our 'powder dry' c) They had too many players out and it's not a true reflection of a proper 'test' With thanks in advance... 😇 In all seriousness, I think it will be fascinating watch seeing two dichoitmous styles going head to head, summarised as 'all out attack' vs 'stingy grinding defence'.

Found it - Far right is Avg Inside 50's conceded. As a general comment- this illustrates just how close all teams are ultimately, in how many possessions are conceded, what disposal efficiency looks like, and so forth. It's a very very tight competition...

There is a massive disconnect from how supporters believe a player should be totally invested all the time through the football season, versus their own lived experience of how they themselves relate to their work week, colleagues and content of work.

I'd be curious about the Dee's round by round I50's conceded to opponents.. could you pull that up?

Yes... yes we do.

Who knows pickett- I was referencing the language used by CP5 and why it’s used and why it’s important to not interpret it as not caring….

There is another thread on this. The reason there is so much of the language around 'learning opportunities' - is due to to the education of coaches and players - who often refer back to Carol Dweck https://www.mindsetworks.com/science/ - and 'Growth Mindset' - - it's endemic within the AFL industry. What I know from direct experience is that whilst the coaches and players talk it ie: 'learning opportunities' its not always the lived experience of athletes.. there is a lot of growth (or learning opportunities if you will) to still occur on how to implement it within a ecosystem such as an AFL club. Anyway... What we do know however is, that the hunger and disappointment that you talk about, is not a sustainable way to relate (as an athlete and coach) to the weekly wins and losses that occur to get the best out of ourselves. It's exhausting, and depletes us both physiologically and psychologically - so that'd be the cortisol and the adrenal responses... which actually take you away from being able to perform at your optimum. Don't confuse the language around learning opportunities as 'not caring'. The athletes care far more than you or I do as a supporter - as they are under exhausting scrutiny weekly. Hope that helps provide some clarity.

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Good post.. these are the nuanced machinations of the dynamics within the team you are talking about, so subtle, and so significant. As a sport psych colleague of mine who has worked with (and currently works) with the best in the business once said... the best way to build team cohesion, isn't around leadership meetings or trust exercises - its bbq's and beers at someone's house. Perhaps in this case, a 'bye' round wine bar crawl...🍷😇

I'm running a marathon today and feel it's analogous to our season. Currently in the early winter slump, going ok but slightly out of sorts, I hope by the time I cross the finish line (5pm-ish) there will be some beers lined up at the golf club and I can celebrate in style and watch the Dees tonight. We're just grinding out the marathon at the moment. Each km marker (game) is merely a snapshot at the present time as to how the team was feeling... it's not a predictor of the end result. There is going to be a lot of hurt and joy both on an individual and team level over the next 12 rounds... and then the next season begins.

Can I politely request that you take the arguing outside of this thread? I understand it's not just you... can we keep it just for Game Plans and Tactics and legitimate discussion. Cheerio.

Oh!! The anxiety about getting out to a 20 point lead!!

Looks like sentiment shared on here...

Context = banged up.

That's a really useful way of framing it. Additionally, it seems we (the FD) have prioritized the turnover game, with an understanding that for us the 50-50 at times goes our way and presumably are prepared to lose out some of the time, with a sense that over the course of a season it will ultimately fall our way.

I really really feel this thread is been hijacked, and getting personal. The antagonising over peoples opinions, and the 'holding' athletes and coaches to account, could really happen in other threads. Like some of the other posters who noted it recently- this thread has been vitriol free for essentially 3 years... Please, shift it elsewhere.

Are you suggesting that is relevant to The Melbourne Football Club?

Can't argue with the sentiment, AND the context of the knee injury and subsequent rehab and return, looms large as a missing piece of the tweet...

Sincere apologies - it was just a popular response in the 90's! 😍 Were you a Full Forward and was your name Plugger, or Chook?

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What's with the words putrid and disgraceful when referencing the team. It's as if you think they're coming up against the Manangatang 3rds... and not another professionally run football club, with similar resources and talent. I'm a bit [censored] ing over the negative [censored] ers on here...