Engorged Onion

oooohhhh *grabs popcorn

cheers Chook, you may have not taken in my previous post. I am cynical, and I agree, yes they are legitimately doing from a perspective of care AND to reduce litigation, though I can't be bothered to quibble over how much is driven by either reason.

Yes, I see your point clearly, and like any organisation the focus is on reducing litigious capacity now due to the current climate, and reducing culpabilities for past wrongs.

Having worked with a particular clubs players - one of the hardest things to do for a player on the cusp, but not fully entrenched (only roughly 5-8 at this club were/are guaranteed staters weekly) is to move the individual away from a notion of what ‘influence looks like. For all players brought up - it is hands on the pill... this changes in club land. It’s a hard rule to break, if Goodwin and co can do it - for those that feel unsure about their role and to compete in a role safe and secure that even if I don’t touch the pill I am safe as there are a plethora of other ways to demonstrate I am doing my job, then the team and the individual will have more consistent performances.

This game is looking after the welfare of those that deliver you your weekly entertainment package...

You deserve a beer for always typing Jeelong. Seriously...

Well, I don’t care for football anymore, for obvious reasons. Let’s get meta. But, I think we can differentiate between, ‘Most Hated Team’ vs ‘Most Hated Supporters of Teams’. For me, it’s Geelong and Hawthorn who understandably ooze smugness and of course everything is cyclical/on a pendulum- and now its Richmond.

@Satyriconhome - how does it come to pass that folk are confused? Is it delivery? Is it the player? Is it generational? What’s your take?

Ah, maybe I was looking too deep - it’s who you omitted. No mention of Goodwin as part of the ‘change’, just Burgess and ‘his’ team. Which if I’ve inferred correctly - means none /or little of the change in team from your perspective comes from Goodwin, which feels unfair from my perspective.

I see what you did there ??

The funking hilariousness of blanket statements being made on the basis of a qrt. It’s preseason, for all

Agreed, I thought it was scientific fact that you can’t on a mark... seriously go out to a training ground and force your eyes to watch the ball in to your hands as you are running towards it and a mate spears it at you at full tilt. It’s quite hard to do.

I disagree with you on this one @Clint Bizkit, although I liked watching him, he isn't suited to what the program was building. The way I look at Frost was that although he had amazing, seriously amazing closing speed, which looks sexy, he lacked composure with the ball either by hand or by foot. His marking was also hit and miss. We want composure out of the backline, which also helps that same backline when one of the backline members turns it over, 30-60 metres up the field. Frost did not aid that. Just on Frost, for mine the curiosity is why Clarkson and Co took him.

I clearly have my blinkers on re: Goodwin, I rate him. For those that don't - help me understand what doesn't float your boat about him? Is it no plan b? Is it he gives nothing at press conferences, therefore must act like that day to day?

By going on the MFC website you can access the plan. Here is a snippet.

Goodwin should have had a plan B for all those injuries...

I mean, 'relax' is one approach @Rab D Nesbitt, the tried and true method I find is to, 1) look forward to Friday/sat/Sun pre game each week, 2)feel disillusioned post game, 3) then move into sullenness, 4)then bargain with whoever your jesus is weekly, 5) then jump on Demonland to either find hope and/or spout bile. 6) and then try to avoid eye contact with colleagues who support anyone who is higher than you 7)... RINSE. AND. REPEAT.

I'd contrast the insensitive comments on here by Demon supporters by anything you read on bigfooty, and get a good reference point to what insensitive looks like from the general public. Bloody hell, that place is feral (but I can't look away!)

Oh, Simon will be up for the gig by early April then.....

Is he still 'well connected' at the club?

Are you @Sir Why You Little with a different handle?

The selling out is an interesting perspective @DeeSpencer - what's your take on that?

Nicely put - I sometimes find it hard to work through what people/commentators 'really mean' by that sort of phraseology around being x% better. Sometimes i just like cold hard quantifiable metrics.

What does finding 5% for Salem look like @BAMF - put it into some observable metrics for me

Pert was that appointment