Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Sure some of Petty's decision making and disposal have been a bit iffy. No question aboy that from me either. But this is a guy who isn't an experienced player and so that's to be expected. I'd much rather give him the experiance and exposure now than in the burning lights of finals. Would we prefer Oscar Mc Donald be our third tall down back?

Welcome back Jack Viney - captain ruthless.

Providing the opportunity to get more games into Harry is the silver lining to Tomilinson's ACL injury.

I would have said it was the other way around actually, but the it's kind of like picking which is the better dog terd isn't it.

"Random teal intruder" - lol, I love it! Tell your boys that you have Rodney's support in your fight against Eddie McGuire to wear the prison bars jumper in any freaking game you want to wear it (it's better than Collingwood's anyway). Depending on the result, you may or may not be so welcome around her in another 4 weeks time, but thanks for your interesting insights into Burgo.

To me the BBB vs Weid comparison at VFL level performance somewhat distorts the picture. I think it's far more representative to look at their respective performances at senior level. Weid: 5 games, 3 goals. Drops marks all over the shop, doesn't get to the right places and sprays his set shots. Limited track record of producing it at the top level. BBB: 3 games, 5 goals. Doesn't look 100% with the pace of the game or to have found chemistry within the team, but still holds marks and gets to the right spots. Hardly looks like missing a set shot with signature cartoon style 100m run-up and set shot routine. During the 2017, 2018 and 2019 home and away seasons Brown finished 3rd, 2nd and 2nd in the Coleman medal and kicked a combined total of 188 goals across 66 games, the most of any player in the AFL over that time period. Best individual effort in a game 10 goals. I known some of his VFL form has been underwhelming, but there are some players that don't perform as well at VFL level, compared to the seniors and perhaps BBB is one of those. If there is a player we would want to be getting right and embedding into the team over the back half of the season for a serious run at finals the pointy end of the season it's BBB.

Year, but that Clarry bloke we recruited with pick 4 - I think he goes all right. It's pretty hard, even with the best recruiters to get it right 100% of the time. I'm also so very greatful that St Kilda picked McCatin at 1.

Not only was he lost and basically nowhere near the footy, but when he was near it, I hardly sensed any despiration from him to get his hands on the pill and do something with it. That's pretty basic stuff for a footballer and KPF 101. At very few occations in Weid's career with us as a player have I sensed him having that basic want, compeditiveness and despiration for the footy that is such a requirement of a key forward. Show some bloody mongrel FFS. Potentially he had a wiff of it in finals 2018 and in patches last season, but asides from that he's really never impressed me much with that part of his game. Confidence and playing to team structures only explains and excuses so much for me. Personally, I'm not quite ready to write the Weid off just yet, but the longer time goes on and he doesn't deliver, I really do wounder that a) if he wasn't pick 9, would we have invested so much in him and b) do we keep playing him, because we've invested so much in him over the years and don't know when to cut our losses. He actually reminds me quite a bit of that Tim O'Brien that plays for Hawthorn - a player that shows some nice skillls and can do some nice stuff every now and then, but doesn't deliver on a regular or reliable enough basis to really live up to their expected potential. Really hope he clicks sometime soon and proves some people wrong.

Whatever tickles your fancy. Will just be great to see him back on the field dismembering opposition players and dismantling their midfields.

In the form he's in I'm sure there isn't anyone here trying cancel Hibbo, but at his age, that cliff can come quickly (think Nev) and I think it would be better to bring in quality replacement options before we have a hole in the armor. If we get him and Hibbo's still going strong, then perhaps that provides an oppertunity to play someone like Rivers or Salem further up the ground?

Maybe they are trying to put together a list for the new 35+ veteran men's AFL competition mooted to come into play ...like never.

Latest training photos on the MFC website show Jack running around and kicking the footy. Must be getting pretty close if that's the case. My bet is that the club are both playing it ultra safe with Jack making sure he doesn't risk re-injury, but probably also getting him back to as close as possible to full match fittness, so that when he does get put into the senior side, he's cherry ripe, ready to smash some heads and make pleanty of opposition on-ballers cry. Dangerfield, Selwood, Bont, Zorko, his old mate Wines all need to feel the full force of Jack 'The Human Cannonball' Viney come the back half and pointy end of the season.

I think he's actually been available for a few weeks, but there's been no VFL footy in that time.

Guessing that if he's that 9 - 11 weeks away, then that could equate to him being in the zone of playing games for Casey around finals time. Would be handy to have as depth around then and must also be giving the man himself some motivation to play either AFL or VFL finals.

...but yes I get where you are comming from. I did read an article on Pendelbery in the past few months that was stating he was looking to step down from their captaincy and looking forward to mentoring the next captain comming through, so yes that would suggest he's pretty invested. Mind you this was all before the Collingwood board erupted in civil war and Buckley pulled the pin too. But he'll be pretty old at the end of the season and Collingwood will be looking to fee up.list spaces and probably cap space etc for rebuilding and also with a new coach, new board, new list manager and new club direction overall, who knows, he may change his tune all of a sudden.

I guess Jordan Lewis would never leave Hawthorn either.

From my own observations on game days, I agree with your statement that his disposal let him down at times, but I also believe he was highly rated for his kicking within the playing/coaching group. From recollection there was that pearler of a goal he kicked from 50m on the run to put us in the position of stealing the win/draw we scraped against GC in 2019, which would support high quality kicking ability. Our kicking as a team has improved out of sight this season as a team and I do wounder if playing in the current environment Hore would similaly benifit from the increased confidence and/or lesser pressure on the ball carrier that our improvement in systems and structures seem to be delivering?

Yeah, I get where you are going with this, as I do see some potential in their respective footballing abilities, but do wounder if their bodies will ever really allow them to be the sort of reliable contributor to the side that Hibbo has been. My impression is Maynard has been pretty sound over the journey in terms of getting out on the park.

How about prising Scott Pendlebery away from them as a free agent at the end of the year? Think he'd be a great addition to our team. Play him as a half forward to provide silver service inside 50 delivery and bursts in the midfeild distributing the ball to the outside. Would also be great mentor to guys like Sparrow, Jordon and co, and even guys like Clarry, Vines, Trac, Harmesy and Gus could learn some new tricks off him. Peddles gets the oppertunity to live out a childhood dream of playing in a Demons premiership. That has to be an attractive prospect compared to more misery at The Filth.

Sorry, can we please put this theory of the team taking lower teams lightly to bed now??! I really don't think this is a big issue mentally for the players any more (though it seems to persist perpetually with many of our supporters). That the team isn't putting away lowly teams early (or even until mid way through the last quarter in many instances) does somewhat irk me as a supporter, because I'd like to enjoy some stress free, fun filled game day thrashings of opposition for once. However I've seen enough of the team this season to have confidence and belief that our lack of putting big breaks on teams early isn't because our players are taking the game easy or the opposition lightly. My suspension is that our general lack of early prolific scoring is more because we are valuing our defensive game more than attacking and hence why asides from Hawthorn we've hardly won a game by more than 30 points, but most of them never really look like letting the opposition back into games late either. Conversely a more attacking team like the Bulldogs might blow the odd weak team with poor defense out of the water, but have been shown to struggle against the better defensive units like us and Richmond. I also don't see too many blowouts in games between other teams this season either, outside of teams playing the Bulldogs, (and/or St Kilda who have been woeful on occations) which I think speaks to the closeness of the competition generally. In short (unlike this post), I think we have a systems based less frills game style, one which plays the percentages of beating most sides most of the time, rather than having games of absolute dominance, but others where we strugle to genuinely stay in the contest. It's also possible (and I hope that it eventates) that over the remainder of the season, that we also hone the attacking part of our game, whilst maintaining our defensive stability and list health. If that occurs, then I think we would go from being a very solid top 4 team, to one that just about unbeatable come finals, like some dominant premiers of years gone by have been. Gee that would be something.

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Jackson might have struggled a bit in the first half, but still got to good spots in the forward 50 when the ball arrived and snaged a pretty handy goal in the second quarter. I do love his work when he gets on the ball. His pickups off the ground and 360 awareness with his handball are absolute assets. Being able to throw in another player at the centre bounces who is quite different to Gawn in his hit out approach is probably also something which helps add a bit of unpredictability for opposition on-ballers to have to react to. But I still think it's pretty hard to beat Max's contributions in the ruck and marking prowess dropping back behind the ball. Some of the centre square clearances won between Max and Clarry in particular (with some good contributions from Trac) in the thrid and fourth quarters were awsome and a big factor for us getting back into the game and then our dominance of the Lions in that second half.

Agree. One of Cameron's goals came from a holding the man free, which I'm not sure Hibbo was responsible for. And then there is the aspect of Hibbo's damaging pin point passes to players in good positions comming out of defense (in that second half in particular), which I though really helped us rebound with gusto.

Sorry, I thought there were a few howlers of decisions both ways. I'll take the goal, but that fee kick paid down feild to Fritta in the first quarter was absolute rubbish. I also thought that free kick paid against Salem holding the ball, which gifted Coleman a goal was equally rubbish, because the tackle slipped below the waist pretty early and Salem was practically tripped. Then there was that non free where Daniher was tackled to the ground, but then allowed to kick it free whole on the ground without it being paid holding the ball was ridiculous.

Yeah, but the way the talk was at the time, I suspect the MFC was prepared to pay a reasonable portion of T Mac's wage. Daniher cost the Lions $2.5M over 3 years = $830K per season.