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From memory you only had one for the finals campagin, but i may be wrong

Nah, it was if you finished top of the ladder, and lost at any stage of the finals, you were able to "challenge" the team that beat you and therefore get another go at them

Furthermore, you can't say that if Brad Green or Brock Mclean went into the Hawthorn side next year, they would be unable to win the Premiership

A few of the questions are frustrating to answer. I.e. club function. 150th night was the best night ever, but the end of season party was a bit of a joke

thanks Max

I see what you mean Bub, but i think you're doing the opposite. You're looking at the team and it's qualities, and therefore assessing individual ability based on that. Bruce, Green, Brock all were part of the most "successful" Victorian club two years ago when part of a solid team, it's naive to think that they couldn't play a part in a team like Hawthorn should they have spent enough time at the club. WE, the MFC, finished 16th yes, but that doesn't make everyone of our players worse than any of the Grand final listed players. Steve Johnson, Cam Mooney, Chapman et. al. were part of the Rubbish GFC team of '06, yet also part of their '07 triumph, MFC players would've fitted in either side if they could work in the team

haha i mentioned the jumper, then sent a link to the thread

BB, you're honestly saying that all 44 playing on Saturday are better than any of our starting 22? Having a laugh aren't you? There's realism, then there's just going over the top with it

90-3, just as it deserves. The club wants a jumper the fans love, surely this has to go some way to showing that. Time to email?

It makes for interesting reading I think. Two years ago we played the Hawks under lights, with many of the same players that were out there yesterday, and absolutely dismantled them. Individuals don't win Premierships, teams do. Perhaps some of our players could have played roles in either team yesterday, but all in all it becomes a pretty redundant argument. You wouldn't have Dew in the best 22 in the League for 2008, but he was in the best 22 for the year, the Premiership winning team. I hadn't thought much of Ellis, and if he'd been picked by St. Kilda, probably still wouldn't. Wonder if we were a Buddy and Roughead away from a Premiership in '06

Isn't there some stupid stat for penalties at Old Trafford over the last few years? 30 to 5 or something outrageous? That gets extended to include other "big four" clubs

Haha because i only changed my mind after further thought.

Haha couldn't give a toss what a Collingwood supporter would say. But in all seriousness, I'd have to say any time period involving extra Premierships makes for a better achievement. 3 in a row is an amazing achievement, but 5 in 6 years is better, and 6 in 10 better again IMO. 16 in 112 is a better achievement again IMO

But you said waited longer, which is wrong. But moving on. It makes it easier definitely, knowing our club has great history, but yes it does make it frustrating that we can't win won now.

Saints won in '66, but I see your point

Bell I'm pretty sure

5 out of 6 Grand Final wins is staggering, let alone making the GF the year before. That beats the Pies 4 in a row, especially when 3(?) of them were won with challenges. Making 7 in a row is amazing, but doesn't imply GF success. The Roos made 8 (?) straight Prelims, but only 3 GFs out of them

That also makes sense...because i'm sure they thought Robbo might've run...

Ronaldo should be retrospectively red carded for that What's going on with Spurs? Can't watch tonight's game, but 66% possession and 13 strikes to 8, yet 2-0 down. Guess that's what happens when you remove two top class strikers and don't replace them. Mind you, they're less potent than our current "strike-force" at the moment!

Spurs to be related to who?

Anyone know why he was wearing Robbo's jumper?

Half of Geelong's points were rushed don't forget

And then there was Hull, LOL

I miss Robbo at his best. His ability to mark over his head at absolute full tilt is ridiculous. Hope he can get back to some fitness, even young teams need structure. If he can find form he can help straighten us I think

Merseyside Derby tonight, should be massive! Liverpool need to start kicking into top gear very soon, because Arsenal are looking the goods. Even their 12 years olds beat sides 6-0