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Bit of sour grapes from the tall man.

Biggest joke of an award in the game - and that's saying something!

Can a rookie ask to not have a pay increase to play senior footy?

It was pretty much guaranteed already, but I'd have thought that today's selection new basically puts the stamp on a great career.

Anyone read Grant Thomas today? "Imagine a situation where a team loses and pushes another team over the 4 wins threshold," yeah, tough to imagine. Went on to say if Demetriou admitted it there'd be massive repercusions financially and socially, but him not admitting it is mystifying....not so mystifying.

You should work for the press mate. I don't believe we would have put that amount of experimentation into one match without the PP. Sure, we would experiment with players in new positions, but surely not all in the one go. Ironically, many of the changes made on the day worked out quite well. So of course you can say it was a success. But you're very naive to simply claim we're doing what we've done all year. HT, by your own admission you can only name two rounds this year (3 now I assume). All I'm saying is starting your last quarter with Jones, Bartram, Frawley, Warnock in the forward line (with Jetta as CHF) is beyond experimentation. Geez I'm sick of this whole debate. It just goes around in circles and usually restricts itself to matters of semantics.

It's an opinion, so it's not "incorrect" and you ignored that I did not say we have never experimented - I was simply pointing out that we had never seen it even close to the level we did on Sunday. The spin being put on this game is amusing to say the least. I never said we shouldn't have done it rpfc, but I'm just saying it's ridiculous to hide behind "we've made a few experimental moves over the last two years, so Sunday was nothing new." The extend was incredible, bordering on absurd. It nearly won us the game because Richmond are useless. I'm glad we're doing it, but we shouldn't then bow our heads like innocent school children and claim it's what we've claimed we'd do all year and that explains the sudden impulse to shuffle the entire team.

Happy with that for Bent.

You're kidding yourself HT. Of course we've experimented over the last two seasons - but cumulatively you'd struggle to find as many moves as we saw on Sunday.

This first sentence is a carry on from the thread title. Not rocket science.

I hope he knows where his Dees towel is at.

It's now official. Whelan (plantar fascia) has been outed with every possible injury south of the jaw - it's also got to be one of the most specific listings of an injury I've seen.

Debt demolition. Surprisingly, at debtdemolition.com, just like last year

If she'd said this in 2007 (which she may have) about a certain team in Navy Blue jumpers, we'd be loving it. Just doing her job and as usual doing it well.

Wouldn't surprise me if half of the reason for her writing that is was an "unusual loss" pertained to the team who played pathetically winning the match. She said as much on FC.

Of course we've been doing it all season (and last) and of course it would be fine if Hawthorn "put the cue in the rack" according to all journos. Hypocrites.

Player's. Geez, I thought the whole team had been busted!

Relax!, it's not the .

Einstein, have you just discovered youtube or something?

After watching the Dees game, I could only imagine a plunge would be from inside knowledge.

Stynes signed those members in about 3 weeks - we also had a ridiculous amount of members pre-christmas. I agree Watts played some part, but there has been an overwhelming positivty surrounding this club that has entered the fray since the Irishman took the helm. I'm also not so sure that playing the youngsters is "list management" - they probably give us a better chance of winning!

Buckley? (Sorry to joke, but serioualy, I cannot take this talk from outside sources seriously. Who gives a rats what they think. In fact, the only reason I slightly care is that I'm enjoying being disliked for a while)

Einstein, I thought you were going to go with some Franky goes to Hollywood.

Hrm. Is there any proof that he is actually still alive? Any proof that he has thoughts of his own? ... Or thoughts at all?

You've forgotten Jim Stynes.