Axis of Bob

The real issue that makes a zone so effective in AFL is the speed of the ball through the air, and the man on the mark. You can cover space because the ball generally travels relatively slowly through the air as well as from decision to kick (ie, a step or two, drop the ball, then swing the leg .... it takes time) and defenders are able to use this time to cover territory. So you don't need as many people to cover the ground against the medium/long pass and instead you can use these extra numbers where you need them .... to cover the long kick down the line. The other big issue is the man on the mark. In order to clear the man on the mark, you need to kick the ball in the air, which means that you don't need someone in your zone covering that spot behind them, or you can force the player to kick away from a particular area. You can see this as the kicks will either be long down the line, backwards, or 90 degrees. The most attacking kick is actually the one 45 degrees inboard, which opens up the play on to clear the opposition zone or a long switch to the opposite side away from the zone. The aim of a team, defensively, is to force the opposition to kick the ball down the line because that's where your extra players will be. It's also the most likely to cause a stoppage (and a 50/50 chance of winning the footy back). They key to defending is to take away time and space, create stoppages and force the opposition to kick to contests (especially outnumbered ones down the line). The aim of a team, offensively, is to get the ball past the zone where you have a 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, giving you an excellent chance of scoring, or getting the ball forward before the opposition has time to set up the zone. You can do the former by going around the zone (switching the ball), going over the zone (by a short kick and then play on, or handball to a runner, and the long kick from there being able to clear the zone) or by going through the zone (either a running link of handballs or a big mark down the line and quick play on). You can do the latter by winning clearances (especially centre clearances) when the numbers are relatively even at each end, or by forcing turnovers (which mean that the opposition can't set up their zone in time). The keys to attacking are winning the clearances and, as EO says, taking positive risks. This means often attacking quickly even when the odds are against you ..... just less against you than they usually are. Examples are carrying the football further, giving a forward handball, a quick play on, taking on the corridor when the opportunity is there (eg. go to one on ones) etc.

I was a mid/forward in suburban footy who got older and went to half back. It was the best thing that happened for me in terms of understanding the game. We can't go back to man on man because you can easily expose it by putting numbers behind the ball, creating a 10 vs 10 defensively and a 2 vs 2 offensively. Elite footballers are good enough that, when they have time and space, they will be able to hit open targets or forwards in one on one situations. Give any half decent forward an empty 50 with his opponent and a straight running kicker and they'll have a shot on goal 80% of the time. If you go one on one, and the opposition only leaves 2 people ahead of the ball, then any half decent clearance will probably end up in a score. On the other hand, a clearance to a 10 vs 10 contest the other side will almost definitely end up in a stoppage. So a game with even clearances will almost definitely result in a loss.

This is hilarious. This is what the tough guys around here look like when they go the full melt and start cancelling memberships etc, usually in the form of an 'Open Letter' about 'accepting mediocrity' ..... .... and it's equally hilarious.

For us to 'lose' this trade, we'd have to think that we would have been able to pick a better player than Kossie with our first pick in the upcoming draft ...... ..... and if Kossie was available with our first pick in 2020, I'd be desperate for us to pick him.

Round 23 last year. 9 games ago. But, given the last 6 months, yeah, it probably counts as a decade! ?

25% extra time. But I'm not arguing why, because only those inside the club would understand that and it's beyond my expertise. I'm just arguing that the game has been played has looked one team that could run and one that couldn't.

The team can't run. It's the difference between a team that can run and a team that can't. 4 day break.

You're trying too hard. I don't believe you.

I'm looking forward to the predictable reprint of this article at the end of the year when the media is drooling over Pickett and North is chastised by the media for 'giving him away'. The football media is just terrible.

Agreed, binman. I think it's very difficult to see how you have benefitted from that when you, like everyone else, go through hard times, good times, challenges to overcome, setbacks in your journey and all sorts of things. You can see your own barriers that you overcome (or didn't) and therefore assume an understanding of what those challenges are for others. It makes it so difficult because the temptation is to say "Well just get over it .... my life has also been hard and I have overcome it." It doesn't invalidate your experience, it just doesn't make it directly applicable to this problem. Everyone's life is hard, which is why it is so hard to understand the impacts of racism on a person if you aren't part of that group. We just need to keep working to stop racism, wherever we get the chance.

And I'm happy that our club keeps calling out racism. Aside from being the right thing to do, it also shows our players (and opposition players/player managers) that we care about our players and are willing to fight on their side. It certainly doesn't hurt when we want to retain/attract players.

Simplifying a country like this is not helpful nor is it in any way an adequate explanation of what has happened. They have issues but it's unfair to label a 300m+ population so broadly, in the same way that you wouldn't say that Australians are, for the most part, as dumb as the day is long because Pauline Hanson is in the senate. It's far more complex.

He's an even better kick than Ty Vickery .....

Reasons why this is a terrible story. 1: Kossie Pickett. 2: Heavily compromised 2020 draft. 3: Free second and third round picks. 4: Kossie Pickett.

Bennell likely didn't have a direct opponent because that isn't how modern defence works. The problem being that, if Bennell can't do the same volume of two way running his team mates can, when he is out there.... errr ..... the defence rests.

Having an opposition drop numbers away from the half forward contest and filling space behind inside the 50 would be an absolute godsend for our ability to score! It makes the first, critical contest much easier to win and then the half forward have a lot more time and space to be able to use the ball going forward or use one of the trailing midfield runners to run through the 50m arc to score. The idea about this plan is that, if played well, it's extremely hard to counter. It's like all the good teams; you know the plan but it doesn't mean you can stop it. As for the second part, it's much more difficult to switch tactics mid game than it was previously because the tactics are so much more complex. Team defence and zones need to be coached for extended periods of time to work and you can't just change that on the fly. Remember that the tactics also have to be carried out by humans on the field, and they have a limited amount of capacity to make decisions and the decisions need to be made and acted upon instantly. It's far more difficult than going from man on man to 'throw an extra behind the ball' of yesteryear. It isn't just us, it all teams including the best and worst.

So Geelong's slow ball movement was specifically a tactic to stop our forwards attacking when we got the ball? I think you're conflating two issues. Geelong tried something different to deal with our strong defensive press. I think our personnel showed how we were going to play, with one key forward and a whole bunch of (generally quick) mediums. It's no surprise. We just didn't use the ball well enough when we created that space. I think Spargo will come in to help us with this problem. Also, as an aside, the much vaunted chip kick possession style of attack resulted in the minor premiers scoring 7 goals for the game. Yes, we should have defended more aggressively to win the ball back sooner, but it was hardly an abject failure of defence. We just didn't take our opportunities well enough.

Traded, Drafted, Traded, Traded. None were free agents, although I missed Daniel Wells, who was offered a 3 year contract at age 31.

How so?

No, they're pretty similar players. Small, clever, fall of the ball forwards. It's just that Pickett is much, much better. But that style of player is very important for us, which is why they went so hard for Kozzie last year and have taken a risk on Bennell. We have a lack in that area and, when Spargo plays well, we are a high scoring team. It's the role, more than the player.

It's comments like that from Ed that make it hard to land the best free agents. Richmond are open about caring for their players first and they get players like Tom Lynch to choose them whilst Collingwood gets .... Chris Mayne?

I am so looking forward to watching this place burn to the ground when the final team is Spargo in for Rivers. The team is too slow up forward with McDonald plus Vandenberg and another tall. If we're going for the second tall it'll probably be at the expense of Vandenberg. Spargo is a much more likely in, since he's someone who makes good decisions going inside 50, which is a skill we've really lacked. With Hibberd coming back in and playing well, plus Lockhart, it's likely the choice will be between Lockhart and Rivers. Rivers has been promising so far but he's been beaten in some big contests over the past few weeks which have been costly in a team that has been otherwise very good defensively. Goodwin has flagged the style he wants to play through the media and press conferences. We want to attack quickly with a tall to bring it to ground and then a fleet of smalls and mediums to take advantage of the space created behind the contest at half forward. Kossie was very important to those contests last week and Spargo is a similar, if much less dynamic, player. But I'm going to log in later tonight for the melts.

You may not change that one person's view but as kids grow up seeing their heroes calling out this behaviour then it changes their feeling towards racism. The process is slow but look at the difference in attitudes compared with 30 years ago and the difference is stark. It's a lot like losing weight .... You don't notice the change as it happens because it happens slowly, far more slowly than you want, and there are hiccups along the way, but you just need to keep moving in the right direction day after day, year after year until you eventually end up in a better place. The post isn't for jayden238, it's for the prevention of future jayden238s.

I certainly would not be having a go .... I'm reluctant at the best of times. This is a time where everyone across the board is just going to have to do what they can. Gil obviously hasn't done it on his own, but nearly everyone involved has an interest in the games going ahead. Clubs, players, staff, broadcasters etc. That's why it takes leadership to step in and do what's right despite the incentives not to. It's a bloody tough spot to be in, I agree. There are no good outcomes to the choices. I just think that is harder to see out into society from inside the AFL bubble than vice versa, and the AFL's decision is a result of that.

I'll watch the game but, to be honest, I don't really care about it at all. I just figure we shouldn't be playing the games this all this week and the empty grounds will just remind me if that constantly. I'm very disappointed in the league officials for their lack of leadership. The whole country, indeed the world, is correctly imploring for social distancing whilst the AFL tries to wring a few dollars out of a ruined early season. The AFL has tried to craft an image where it takes the lead on social issues, but it'll be a lot harder to get credit for taking the high ground now and into the future.