John Demonic

Wasn't there a stat that said 46% of Spargo's inside 50's result in a mark, which is the best in the comp? And our next best player is Viney at 19% which is the league avg and every other player is below. Dropping Spargo sounds like a great way to fix our forward connection

The only parallel I think you can draw is how the forward line set up of 1 tall in Riewoldt and a 4-5 mosquito fleet of smalls w/ a mid-sized forward in Josh Caddy ended up failing to be enough to mount any kind of efficient come-back against the Pies in a prelim, who rattled them early with fast football that caught their defenders in 1 on 1's, The initial surge of 5-7 goals was enough to keep the Tigers at bay as the Collingwood defenders swamped Riewoldt in 3 on 1's all game. They went and recruited Tom Lynch in the off-season and the rest is history. Whatever happens this year, we will still need to go and recruit a key position forward or at worst a stop-gap kpf to replace Mitch Brown and be depth for a hopefully injury free TMAC and JVR as he develops. It's actually the opposite to 2018 for Richmond, they had a very soft run into the finals and it did not help them, it hindered them. If you can recall that Hawthorn supplanted us in the top 4 and Richmond took care of them pretty comfortably before getting the week off. Hoping this tough month right now could do the opposite for us in prepping us for the finals

Is Jordon still a lock for that wing? While I'm unable to assess his running patterns, space holding and km's run from a watchafl subscription, I found his reaction time with the ball in hand lethargic and slow paced. He wasnt manic or 'surging' enough with his disposal, which in turn meant worse entries forward., It may have been to do with Collingwoods pressure though. But harking back to the question: do we want to bring anyone else in or make positional changes again: like Harmes returning to the middle, Gus to the Wing, Hunt or Bowey in defence but also sharing some time on that wing with Gus drifting back or wherever needed ie a rotational wing etc

I hope Goodwin is not trying his best to create a 16-22 of players that missed out last year, purely out of the goodness of his heart and also in relation to the May incident ie Melksham, Smith and then persisting with Hunt, Jordon, Weid ... when there might we better options and/or positional shifts that are an improvement on their current output. I eagerly await the facepalms for that hot-take

I recall a stat for Sydney that they are 17/3 for last quarters won. I say this, as it bodes well for them ending Collingwoods streak this week and being our QF matchup away or at the G (If we win both our games)

We need to improve, but I'm sick of seeing this stat and not the full list of 18 clubs ranked by pressure. it's just a cherry picked champion data headline for fox footy from 1-2 months ago at this point that get bandied about by all talking heads. I want to CD to show us the context of it v our rivals: Where do Geel, Syd, Coll, Freo, Bris all rank in pressure? How does our pressure rank in the past two weeks? Month? etc

Sparrow does alright from a set shot or kicking straight 40-50m out. He rarely gets a shot, but he nails them.

Yikes, assuming we beat Carlton and Bris, Freo, Syd & Coll do what they need to do against lesser sides. Round 23 Bris v Melb could decide whether we finished 2/3 or 6th. 5th would be bad enough, but 6th!? Damn. https://predictor.squiggle.com.au

The question is, if you're a WB list manager, how much is enough to satisfy your fans that you bled both Melb/Freo to get the most satisfying package for losing a generational key forward with 2 years left on a contract WB aren't walking out of this without 3 first round picks at a minimum, 2 from Freo, 1 future from Melb. Lobb is steak knives in all of this. Jeremy Cameron at 27 was 3 firsts, Naughton is 22.

The stakes will be massive. If we lose to Collingwood then its close to a write off for the season. Limping into a semi and then beating Geelong In a prelim will be a massive task, then we might be in a re-match against Collingwood in the GF on a 15 game winning streak. Winning a premiership from that position would easily defeat the 2016 Dogs run for difficult challenges. Win that QF and we are well rested for 2 weeks and can watch Geelong and Collingwood bash each other up.

If it makes it easier for you, just imagine an "if this rumour is true" in front of the naughton trade packages. No one here is commenting under any conviction that a rumour is fact. Everyone knows the DL draft and trade forum is the most fun place for thought experiments, to take our minds off the losses

lol what's with the anger? Langdon absolutely got what he deserved. If Howe had called us a one trick pony and Viney and others had piled on in the opening 30s, we'd all be celebrating/laughing about it.

Harmes for Jordon and Gus to the wing is my feeling after last nights game too, Though I watched it on tv and didn't get to see how Jordon was doing re holding space, amount of km's - I just felt he was not manic enough when he had the ball and we need a boost in that department.

If we can get Naughton then we're still on track to complete The Tiger Dynasty Model: Win the premiership. Lose to the Pies because of a lack of key forwards. Acquire Lynch in the off season Win the next two premierships

The Dogs would want our 2023 1st as well . And we would probably have to do it or swap for one of their 2nds, to get him out of contract. Unless they Plan on asking for Logue as well. Can't see a club playing hard ball accepting Lobbe, Pick 12-14 x2

Who cares. We finished where we finish. Gutted.

I knew after every goal they were gifted in the 50 we were done for. Petty's final free kick was the last nail in the coffin. I won't blame the umps but that had a Collingwood win written all over it in the last quarter. We were scared, and they tackled hard. We played rattled, that was very disappointing. 9 beers deep and I resisted the urge to smash my computer. At least I've got that going for me.

Fair call. 'Great' analysis might've been a bit overboard - Just thought id post a little bit of light reading anyway. My expectation bar is so low for the media that I don't expect neutrals to re-watch an old matchup or remember, as we fans do, players getting subbed off and playing injured, but it's a standard we should expect.

Some great pre-match analysis for killing time (Half way down page): https://www.footytalkingpoints.com.au/post/ftp-afl-21

I don't think BBB will ever be due half a dozen at this stage in his career. His best is behind him and you'd have to be playing a very injury depleted backline to see him get on an unencumbered lead that many times. If he's due for 3 or 4 then he will be the perfect piece we've been missing.

Picking TMAC on one leg

"I love playing with him, I love being his leader, I love being his friend, I love coaching him and I love seeing little bits that I've told him during the week come out on game day" Wholesome af

The more times goes on, the more I feel like Kelly and Whitfield are highly paid irrelevant stat padders. Good players no doubt, but what individual accolades have they achieved that would make one of them worthy of being involved in an LJ trade, that would make us think we have 5+ years of their best ahead of them? They've both been AA once, 5 years ago. No thanks tbh. I know Logue is the other half of your trade, but I just don't feel like any one of them are difference makers.

I remember Lyndon Dunn carrying on like a pork chop post-game!

That one away game against Gold Coast with their season on the line, might be our shot at the Minor premiership. Having said that, the Cats play the eagles in r23 don't they? So they'll go into their MCG QF not having had a competitive hit out for 3+ weeks, and having not played at the MCG for close to 2 months. 4th might not be so bad a position to finish 🤣