John Demonic

I don't want to lose Spargo for a late 2nd or 3rd, his semi final showed what we'd been missing - but if this is in someway connected with trading Our Firsts and Spargo for that pick #2 and then coming at WCE with an ultimatum on Reid/Curtin, then its a smart move - If North were willing.

Saw this rumour on Reddit about Spargo. Not sure if it's just drawing conclusions based on family links or they're actual "small rumblings" "Ins are likely to be Stephens and Fisher though there seems to be some small rumblings about Charlie Spargo which is a watch this space as he has family links with North and Clarko. A mature defender or two as well but maybe the state leagues for these." https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/16lfg3s/comment/k12d7nm/

We heading down the Adelaide camp direction with blindfolds and opposition team songs? Maybe jump.out from behind the door dressed as a toothless Collingwood supporter?

Yes me too. But the person mentioned that we are Port in 2001-03 and called us chokers. Well if we are, then Bris beating Pies again like in 02/03 ain't so bad a result either. Hence the response

I'd be ropable if our club went out the way Port have in their last two big do-or-die finals though. Games over at quarter time/half time. Never even get started until its too late.

"Geez Hogan has nice hands doesn't he?" "Oh yeah we love kicking it to him" These bastards are rubbing our noses in it!

What a defence! Eating up every entry

Again!

Kane Cornes GAGF

Collingwood v GWS. Eddie McGuire or Donald Trump. I'm genuinely confused who to barrack for now

I wish that I had Jesse's 4. Why can't I find a full forward like that?

Some kind of cruel poetic irony that a player, whose absence from Fremantle this year, helped sew up their demise and aided us getting pick 5, kicked the winner against us. What a fantastic final series he's played so far. Maybe we should've asked for him in the pick trade. #Hindsight2023

There's no way we'd beat Brisbane without him, as he's one of our players they have no answer for. Hoping some small solace can be taken from the fan base now, although some may disagree.

That's skipping a generation! And just feels like a backwards Dyson Heppell type of captaincy move that promotes disharmony in the senior ranks. No offence to Trent or anything, but he's 22 and has 4-5 years of development in him and I dont expect Max or Viney to be around by then, and in two years, will probably be injury prone more often than not. Maybe if we'd been able to draft Noah Anderson instead of LJ, we'd be having that discussion in year or two though!

Having a forward line to kick to might do that too

Interesting topic. There has to be a leadership GROUP transition at the very least. Tracc, Brayshaw and Lever will all be 29 heading into the 2025 season and I think that's the last opportunity to make the big leap to a new leader, knowing that players bodies don't hold up so well 2+ years on from there. I think big Max deserves another year at it though. Having said that, making the 'tough decision' to give Tracc the captaincy next year, might be the spark or fire that takes his game to another level. If that's even possible.

Cmon pick 13 you good thing. Carn the Giants!

We might be pick 13 by the end of the night. Let's get that Deathriding Port Adelaide thread up and going!

"I haven’t seen that many behinds since I visited a nude beach in Europe" Saw this comment and thought it was a lovely humourous break from the anguish!

Maybe don't pop on Crunch Time this morning!

Understandable mate. My only solace will be seeing the Lions win a prelim and grand final by 10 goals x2. At least then I might feel like we didn't actually squander anything, and that a club like them, who've been contending for half a decade, finally put together a finals similar to ours in 21 and were worthy winners, that nobody could've stopped.

Who will win the flag?

I can completely understand Fritsch turning to the crowd to pump them up and get them behind us. I feel like he and maybe Tracc are the only ones that understand the power behind it and harnessing the energy. But when it comes to turning back to our players, and engaging in gleeful hugs and smiles, like the job is done. I too felt that same 'awkwardness' - Don't want to pick on Kozzy as he's young, but he was smiling like his spiteful enemy had been vanquished for good after that Frisch goal and it made my stomach turn. You want to see a much more determined steeliness in regards to player interactions after goals. think back to the 21 GF and Tracc's reaction to his boundary worm burner goal. Just fierce determination to keep dominating them.

Has the club? It's upsetting to admit it, but maybe we haven't. Maybe it shook us. Playing in front of a big MCG crowd baying for blood. We may have been too good for the has-been Tigers on Anzac Eve in 22', but the step up from that against another contender with a big supporter base. Maybe we haven't.

I'm all for the Lions beating the Pies in a grand final though