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Seems like a real asset to the team.

Yes Frost is fast and will burst out of D50 but how many times does he turn the ball over? Pretty much every time Frost decides on doing some Frostball and [censored] it up it leaves us outnumbered in defense. Petty still developing, will be a better option moving forward, who really wants to pay 500K plus for a player that other need to pick up the slack defensively because he cannot execute the basic fundamentals?

They really are different players... I see smith playing as that X factor forward, really good in the air and quick when the ball hits the ground really hard to match up on. Tomlinson is an aerobic beast, his best position IMO is a link up player on the wing who has the added bonus of being able to compete in the air.

I think GC is the only team worth splitting the pick with given they will have 9 and 15 once the Martin deal goes through... I guess it just depends on what we do with those picks if we split. If we are just taking them to the draft id prefer to just keep 3. If we have a few more players coming accross where we need first rounders as trade value then it makes sense.

meh... the second round pick was going for Langdon. I think giving them a mid first round pick next year is a bit of a joke given pre season hasn't even started yet. After Martin goes they will be adding picks 1 & 2 plus another first rounder plus have the first two picks of the second round. The will also be adding Ellis as a FA and have the likes of Rankine to come in and improve their list. This team will rise up the ladder very quickly if they get their culture right this time around and it will be really awkward if the Suns finish 8-12 next year and are still granted another first round PP...

Wow now that is one hell of an assistance package to get the Suns off the ground. It will be really interesting to see what happens if they are still a rabble in 2-3 years time, surely they get relocated then.

Norf...

Couldn't agree more.... We better [censored] turn up next year

Not sure if you have answered this one already but was Elliot the second free agent you were referring to in earlier posts ?

Freeeeeeee. Well just dollars no need to trade

Langdon, Tomlinson and Elliot would be a huge trade period. If Frosty goes we will likely still hold picks in the first and second round to.

Can't keep them all sometimes... If he goes he goes, sure he has x factor and has improved however I think we have seen the best of frost which is a relatively inconsistent player which does 3 or 4 nice things a game but 3 or 4 wtf moments.

That would be an insanely good trade period for us if we can pull that off. I think that will block every deficiency we have and push us right back up there assuming the boys work hard over summer and we remain healthy. We would still have to use our 3rd and fourth round picks in the draft in that scenario however, so we would need to clear a total of 7 list spots... Jeffy, Keilty, Lewis, Maynard (confirmed) ... JKH, ANB & J Wags?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2019-giant-trade-target-adam-tomlinson-shattered-at-brutal-finals-selection-call/news-story/d3095fff35f0d5c26ab05ea0b4a3cbb1 Featuring in 80 out of a possible 81 games and being dropped for their final doesn't really constitute "not getting a game"

He has an equal or better tank than ANB. He could take his spot as a high half forward trying to out run his defender. He can also be utilised more on the wing and half back. He has been a best 22 player for a successful giants team for 4 straight years. I hope we get him across.

Yeah second round compo IMO likely a pick in the 30s.

If they get their hands on pick 3 it means that they will be able to take green with a second round selection as their first selection will be in before the bidders. They are essentially (indirectly) gaining an upgrade of their second round pick to another top 5 selection by doing the deal. So yes they will pay overs for pick 3.

I really think you are forgetting about the salary cap bud... Unless you plan on trading out at least two of our higher paid best 22 players there is zero chance of this happening. You also need to use a minimum of 3 picks in the draft, do you really want us to be having to draft into the 4th/5th round taking up a senior spot?

If we end up splitting the pick with GWS I really hope we go for Brent Daniels as part of the deal. 13 for Laird would be a no brainer, would add some serious dash and rebound ability in on our half back line.

He is a 25 year old 2 X all Australian who is contacted until 2021... I really think a first rounder is this absolute starting point if we had a chance of getting him. I'd say a pick between 8-15.

A few articles popping up this morning after talk on the radio that Laird "may be available" although contracted. At 25 he is a super star half back which could allow us to push Salem up the ground and also cover the loss of Lewis from our backline. I would assume a first rounder would be a minimum cost to acquire him, possibly more given his contract status. https://www.triplem.com.au/story/listen-andrew-jarman-believes-that-multiple-clubs-are-circling-rory-laird-146811

I think we will struggle to get him in the cap....I believe his contract is in excess of 700k

Perhaps may will go forward?

Here is my scenario... 3+21 to Sydney for 5 + Papley (values Papley approx pick 12) 5 + 57 (1927 points) to WCE for 15 & 23 (2060 points) (WCE will want a higher pick to pip Freo in the Kelly deal) 23 to Freo for Langdon Take 15 to the draft Overall: In: Papley, Langdon, P 15 Out: 3, 21 & 57

honestly... I'd take just a plan B with our coaching form this year.