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All good points @Colin B. Flaubert. The biggest thing I also took out of the interview and sad in a way because it really did have a bad impact on player’s psychological welfare was just how bad Mark Neeld was for the footy club. You hear stuff from past players like Brad Green and Brent Moloney but I thought Jack touched on the real depths and sensitivity damage it had on the playing group. Some of the stuff Watts mentioned that Neeld use to do was just dead set awful. Full praise to Paul Roos, Peter Jackson and Simon Goodwin in installing belief and confidence back into the group.

Well Mac Andrew has been in our NGA system since he was 14 years of age. That's according to Jason Taylor. But clubs are generally pretty good integrating each year into their development. When they're about 16-17 years of age, club will usually invite them down during the pre season for a week or two and train with the footy club. They also might do some work experience as well during the year. Mostly it's all about building them up into that professional environment so that they're ready from day dot. My take is that the AFL overreacted last year because club recruiters whinged about the whole JUH situation. Jason Taylor is right, there should have been some minor changes and a bit more charity instead of just jumping the gun so suddenly. But, unfortunately it is what it is.

Agree 100% I think he's papers got stamped when he turned up in poor condition alongside the bleached hair. Even though he managed to play round 1 I think the damage was already done. Interestingly he mentioned Brendan McCartney as well. This is a guy came that from a culture that was built through sheer hard work and a strong culture on and off field. He could probably sense that Watts would not only be a negative influence on our younger players but probably didn't have the work ethic to fit into the culture Goody was building. I look at the way our team is extremely disciplined on and off field and this is a by product from the moment Goody started coaching tenure. This is the exactly the culture he wanted to build from day dot. The net effect also was we picked up Bayley Fritsch with the Watts pick. Fritta has just kicked his 50th goal for the season in just his 4th season in the AFL. Absolute win for the club.

Yep. When there's smoke there's fire.

Giddy up.

Would Kate Roffey actually be allowed to attend the game? BTW I think she's done a fantastic job so far..

Jack went on an open to public podcast to happily discuss his own life and football career. It was a fantastic insight into the dark days that troubled not only him but many other young players. Fans on a footy forum also discussing and reflecting on the exact same thing Jack openly talked about on the podcast. No one got personal, no one called him names and in fact everyone pretty much openly said how much they loved Jack. Don't open the thread if it's going to trigger you so much.

I know you're still mourning the loss of Watts. So I'm not one bit surprised about this comment. You were also very critical and quite vocal of Simon Goodwin when it all happened and made some pretty pathetic comments towards him. Time to admit the club got it right pal.

He made an interesting comment. He said when he went on overseas trips with Max Gawn, it was Maxy who was waking up early hours of the morning to go for runs and would try and drag Jack along. Jack said he would complain Max to let him sleep in for a couple of minutes etc. Such stark contrast between both careers..

Isn't he a NGA to one of the Adelaide clubs?

Let's agree to disagree with this one Jack. After listening to Jason Taylor the feeling I had was he had pretty much conceded that Andrew was out of our reach. I'm in the same boat with you though, I'm not really fussed if he gets picked up in the top 20 draft. Still think our biggest need is midfield and half back depth alongside a tall key forward to develop away at Casey.

This is exactly my thinking also. I reckon he's asked the club where he sits and they've told him that the medical sub is potentially his spot in the prelim if he gets through full training. If the club didn't think he was a chance they would have pushed him to be back in Melbourne with his wife.

Maybe I was a tad harsh towards WJ but certainly wasn't my intention.

Point out where I said it bothers me please? We're having a pretty good honest discussion in my opinion.

His skills and disposal could never be questioned. It's what he did outside of football and applying himself on the track from a work ethic aspect is why the club got rid of him.

Well are I think you are losing sleep WJ considering you're the only only who continues to posts ongoing weekly updates Mac Andrew from draft ratings each time. Your comparison to Jackson is rather odd. Jackson came to footy late. He only started to take it serious when he made the decision at 16 years of age and that's when he was included in the WA state squad as an underage prospect. He didn't really do much for WA in 2018, but like Andrew clubs saw enough in him due to raw potential to include him in the Australian squad. Mac Andrew came through Dandenong junior programs from 14 years of age onwards. He'd been part of footy development programs a lot longer then Jackson. Andrews underage year was completely wiped out due to Covid. It's unfair to make comparisons on both when Andrew didn't get to show off his potential as an underage player. So realistically his 1 year of NAB league earnt him a late invitation into the Australian squad and also Vic Country state squad. Did you actually watch those NAB league games though? because you would have also seen he was BOG in his last game against Easten Rangers. I also find your Vic Country comment even more bizarre. He didn't impress who? You? According to track watcher like Chris Dorre and Callum Twomey they have the complete opposite view to you. This is what Chris wrote about Mac Andrew Vic Country performance. Melbourne Next Generation Academy ruckman Mac Andrew put forward a commanding performance for Vic Country in their challenge match against Vic Metro on the weekend. It was such a commanding performance that the Demons should not expect to be able to match bids for Andrew, as this year any bid inside the top 20 for NGA prospects cannot be matched. With similar capabilities to Paddy Ryder, the athletic Andrew managed 15 disposals, seven marks (a game-high four contested), nine contested possessions and one goal in the clash at Windy Hill. What was impressive from Andrew was the mix of what he provided. From taking strong contested marks forward of centre -- often outreaching opponents in better position -- taking intercept marks when stationed in defence, to cleanly taking the ball off the bounce and using his skills cleanly, it's apparent Andrew is one of this draft's most talented talls. Cal Twomey who is a highly respected within his knowledge of the draft had this in his Phantom form guide. This is what he wrote about his Vic Country performance. Again, this is why I find your comment that " didn't impress against Vic metro" rather strange. 8. Mac Andrew Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country The headline act in the Vic Metro v Vic Country 'Challenge' game was Nick Daicos. But Andrew's performance was not far behind, with the talented tall producing a stack of eyecatching moments that came together for a terrific game. He booted the first goal from the pocket and slotted a tight set shot before then going into the ruck, winning the tap and following up with the clearance at ground level. It was excitement plus. Andrew, who plays in a similarly versatile manner to Essendon's Nik Cox without perhaps the wingman attributes, is eligible to join Melbourne as a Next Generation Academy pick but only if a bid comes outside the top-20 which you can all but rule out.

Sam Edmund confirming that Maynard is staying at Collingwood. Will be signing a contract extension before the end of this year.

Interestingly he mentioned that even after he was traded Goody still stayed in touched and reached out to him when he went through that [censored] at Port. Can see why Goody is highly respected by the playing group.

I accepted weeks ago the grand final was in Perth. Yep it [censored] sucks because I always pictured myself taking a few days off and staying down in Melbourne to soak it all that week leading into grand final day with my brother and old man. I just want a win now! Get through the prelim and win the whole lot! Don't care how we do it! If there is one small thing I'm annoyed at is that we once again don't get the traditional time slot of 2:30 in the afternoon. Long wait throughout the day for a 7:30 grand final start time. The whole grand final in the afternoon is such a sacred tradition that it just doesn't seem right to me that it's being played in a twilight timeslot.

When you're 8 years into the system with nearly 150 games in your career, maybe coming back to pre season in poor shape isn't exactly showing the right commitment to the team. It was well known his application to training and off field standards was pretty poor. He was given ample of opportunities to change this.

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Simon Goodwon made the right call in getting rid of Watts. Our team is built on players being defensive competitive animals. Jack Watts does not fit this criteria.

This. I've explained this time and time again about this on Mac Andrew. Clubs see a premium on ruckman more then they have ever before. This message has been filtered down by recruiters to the NAB league clubs ( where I do some development work ). We saw in the mid season draft where ruckman were the first priority. They still are. Clubs are looking at ruckman because they've seen the influence of what Gawn has made over the years and now the rapid development. We see Clubs like Western Bulldogs who had to go out and recruit Stefan Martin because they didn't see fit to have Tim English as a their number 1 ruckman. They now using a makeshift ruckman in Lewis Young. Right now if they had a pick inside the top 10 Andrew would be their first choice. There's a big chance Gold Coast or West Coast could go early with Andrew because their huge need for a ruckman. Gold Coast will have Witts return next year. So to have Andrew developing under the likes of Naitanui or Witts would be valuable experience for him. Clubs aren't fussed that he hasn't played much live footy. Clubs are really flexible now with the amount of vision they have. They have vision from his australia game early on and also the practise game he played for Vic Country where he was close to BOG. Max Holmes from Geelong is a perfect example. He played 1 NAB league game the year before and a bunch of school but yet was still selected in the first round selection. It's all about scope of improvement for the years to come and that's why Max is a certainty to go too 15. We're seeing this with our own eyes with Luke Jackson who's becoming the player Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb knew well before any Melbourne supporter when we selected him with pick 3.

3 weeks

But pleads not guilty... 🤔