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Yep ..there is ..we are getting better..the players are adapting to the game plan & as they do ..everyone & everything improves. Far from a finished product but the players were up & about on Sunday .. connected with each other & the coach. You’ve gone so far down the rabbit hole of negativity that you refuse to acknowledge any positives. Maybe stay of this topic… plenty of other topics you can vent your nonsense..

So you aren’t prepared to see the obvious improvements in our game plan come to fruition in 2026 & then judge Goody? But you’d be happy to see a new coach come in ..with new ideas ..new assistant coaches & then have to build a relationship with the playing list (who by the way are 100%behind our coach ) and basically we start again..not sure of the logic behind that. I’d say out of the 9 games played on the weekend ..way less than half were of great quality for 4 quarters . It was a very good win in the end.

Fantastic ..,guess we won’t be reading you in 2026

Carlton players to lift for Voss after that disgusting “murder slur” which ..”surprise ..surprise” was by a Collingwood member.

We could talk “ad nauseum “ about the inequalities of the AFL. It’s a bit like society..the rich get richer ..the poor get poorer and the middle class cops it. I am still passionate about the MFC but I have lost passion for AFL in general …

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In all seriousness…in footy and even in life ..you plan …you train and it all looks pretty good. Then comes the intangibles which you can’t control …key injuries at the wrong time ..players just simply out of form …& to quote Goody simply trying to meld the old & young with a new game plan. I’m totally disappointed with the season because I reckon if one of Trac or Clarry had played to their potential & if one of May or Lever didn’t get injured ,.I firmly believe that would have been enough to make the 8 but I had no illusions that we would go deep, I have seen enough of our game plan to see an exciting 2026 going forward. What is irrefutable is that Goody has the players back & they have Goody’s back. Put me in the “hand clapping majority”.. I don’t really care. I truly believe Goody will be coach next year.

What you fail to understand is that “true” supporters also like to look for positives & hope. That does not mean we don’t get bitterly disappointed when we lose or we don’t question the coaches but you seem to think your analysis of a “true” supporter means you must show negativity and blame. Goody will be coach next season and who knows how many pages this embarrassing thread will be up to by seasons end ..guess it just makes you feel better and “cranky”.

In all fairness..you must give Trac & Oliver a full preseason before writing them off. I don’t need to mention the issues last year for Trac & a couple of years for Clarry. I think you forget that May snapped his plantar ..it’s not healed ..he would play under enormous duress which is why he’s inconsistent. He’s written off by many one week & then brings it on the weekend. You only have to listen to Turner to see who he credits for his development. Viney had a pretty serious rib injury ..then concussion but his last couple of games have been pretty good. Max ..no more needs to be said. Salo does his job as does Langdon. I’m pretty confident they’ll hold up …def for next year & I also think Melky will be good to go for 1 more ..

Agreed ..they have played 1 top 8 team since Rnd 11 ..they travel 7 times & I think 3 of those were at Marvel ..they have the most protected midfielder in the AFL. The next few weeks will be interesting . There has been more comment from Oppo coaches alluding to the favourable run Collingwood gets..(games at home .. umpiring etc) …I’ll reserve my judgement after the next few weeks ..my only concern is in a tight one ..they always get the 50/50 decisions .

In the interview Brad Green gave, he intimated we had a good senior group of players ..an up & coming very good group of younger players but maybe we were missing the 26 yr plus players. This is the age group that the Pies have topped up with …

Brad Green on a very good interview with The Deebrief was very positive about Caulfield and dismissive of The Age article re funding etc. “I shake my head & wonder where they get their info from”. (Paraphrasing). It was an informative..balanced & positive interview . All our resident doomsayers will cast aspersions but it’s worth a listen.

So Carlton has round 100,00 members ..2 Coleman medallist’s as forwards ..a Brownlow medallist in the midfield ..an All Australian fullback.., is this the measuring stick we should be aiming for ..how’s their finals record in the last 30years. Seemingly their members still sign up regardless ..

In what way? They basically quote the statistic's of five or so players ..all correct & then acknowledge our new /newish players. Doesn’t say to me we should be a team that’s flying . I think West Coast could do exactly the same thing with their list. Trac is brilliant at clearances ..his kicking is dreadful ..but not sure it does anyone any good to put that in the mid season report. After all we have many posters who are more than happy to post about negatives ad nauseum. It’s quite nice to read something a little bit positive

I’m sure I’m not the only one who heard Max say on Triple M when he said (paraphrasing) I run into goal with Chocco’s words echoing in my head on how to kick it & i automatically “shank” it”. So maybe the player not always blaming the coaching ?.

Finally some sense ..

The “happy clappers” read the room/thread. When the usual doomsayers (who by the way weren’t too unhappy last week) have reason to vent no point in trying to post any other view. So go for it …have fun pointing every negative you can think of …not one positive in the club you follow …

You were obviously at the game which is infinitely better than watching on tv … I was on a plane so saw very little …what position did they have Jeffo mainly playing ?

Just on the AFL summary of the Carlton v ESS game “ Carlton are moving the ball quicker than Melbourne through the corridor “ etc. Is the AFL using AI to write their game summaries ?

How can you possibly correlate Dermie with Max. For a start the high performance team & all the bells & whistles that go with it were just not available in Dermies era as is the post match recovery they do today. When Max is too sore/not fit ..he will take himself out. He is coming to the end of his career and it wouldn’t serve his longevity if he’s constantly playing under duress. I mean there wouldn’t be a player out there who is not carrying something ..

Not sure why Jeffo has to lay tackles ..put pressure on for sure ..I mean Elliot kicked 5 goals and laid 2 tackles ...Jeffo kicked 5 & laid 1 …

I find it amazing that from watching these sessions (& kudos to you) that you come up with these assumptions. We have a high performance team who would analyse these players to the “nth degree “ and I don’t believe one bit that any training would be taken lightly. My interest in reading these reports are how the players look mentally ..how connected .,what are the vibes like. I’d be extremely surprised if you could tell us anything relating to game plan etc ..& I mean that in a nice way otherwise every club would know exactly what we’re doing …

McStay a test for this week …

Collingwood sitting on top has 3 main forwards aged 32..31..32..a midfield consisting of a 37 yr old & 32yr old..I could go on ..they kicked 7.17 to 3/4 time with those 3 forwards playing …so a few of your points aren’t that valid …We still have 2 young forwards at Casey building form & I’m convinced they will be part of our team going forward . There were a myriad of different reasons for our poor start …

Interested in why you say that. I’m only going on this weeks game as I feel we are a team on the improve whilst Collingwood isn’t going to get much better. I’ll take tackles as a sign of pressure .. Pies 90 had 89 ..Roos 82 ..Forward tackles Pies 20...Roos 10. Dees 89 tackles .Syd 82…forward tackles 20..Syd 9. What the Pies..Geelong even Bris have is system. They have had the nucleus & a big nucleus of their players together for a very long time & often it’s their system that gets them over the line. Still think it may be a step too far to hold this form all the way through to a GF ..hopefully..