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I found no offence. I found it disarming and it's the most open I've heard Clayton be so you have to give the interviewer some credit. Clayton is finally maturing and he seems like a well grounded humble guy. I'm certainly on board with keeping him.

A wonderful analogy Undeeterred

I think these are valid points. I also like the use of the word "Maybe". Football clubs are full of "let's make our own story!" If we are successful with Clarrie then it was the right thing to do. If not then maybe we should have moved him on when we had the chance. If he moves on during this trade period and we become successful again then we did the right thing moving him on. If we move him on and have another bad year then gee we missed Clarrie. The funny thing is out of all four scenarios whichever one does come to fruition there will be a bunch of hindsight Harry's telling us how they knew this was going to happen!

But we are hated. By the media.

Lindsay although he's done his knee looks a gun to me. Elite left foot kick and a good connector into the forward 50.

Dante, I thought Saty made some good points and you got personal, then had a second go at him. I think you should be better than that. At the moment I think you owe him an apology. My take on a review is to know the results you want before you do the review, which of course plays to the incumbents. But I think it is important to do a review for appearances sake. If we go poorly next year at least those in charge can say they did a review. We did a review, we came up with answers, we made changes, we move on. If Kate is strong enough to hold on then good luck to her. I'd rather she fight than wake up one morning and say, I've had enough. Good people are hard to find.

I agree. I mean everyone else has to miss the next match when they get concussion and I bet Moore doesn't! Where's the justice.

Binman another issue that has risen during the 2024 season is that we have a few more bogey sides, ie sides that are now beating us regularly and consistently. This is a 2024 issue. Previous years we had tough opponents, and we would share the spoils but a few of those sides definitely now have the wood on us. I'm not saying we can't turn that around in 2025 but if we are to rise again we actually need to. Brisbane, Collingwood and Fremantle would consider they have the better of us now. Others will be keen to join that group. We may rise back up but we certainly won't just float back up as a matter of course. We will have to learn to fight every inch of our way back up that ladder. Not an easy task.

This is my first post in this thread. Of all the constant complaining on here about the medias role in this extremely distasteful episode in the year from hell, that statement by the clubs media has to be right up there as the greatest bit of rubbish of the lot. I don't forgive him and would prefer he was gone for whatever we could have got. That bloke has a long way to go to repair the damage he and his Brand Management have done to this club. I hope we still find a way to get him off the books this year.

Hello Panel members. Thanks again for your inciteful thoughts, deep analysis and clear love of the Melbourne Footy club on your weekly podcast. This week I'd like you to discuss the worth of Adam Tomlinson. Three areas that interest me are, 1. How good is Goody. I know I'm preaching to the converted with you Binman but keeping Tomlinson on the list when half of Demonland wanted him gone and slotting him in to a successful defensive system is very good coaching and list strategy. 2. Three quarters of Demonland thinks Blind Freddy would have played Petty back when Steven May went down but Goody again stuck to his guns ( much to the detriment of the Goody is too rigid, cohort ) and kept Petty in the three emerging forwards group and was once again rewarded for his thinking with one of the Dees best wins of the year 3 Tomlinson has slotted in seamlessly to the full back spot in the absence of May in the last two weeks. I know he has his weaknesses but his short passing and defensive work has been very good. I can't believe a team like Gold Coast or many other teams wouldn't try to pick him up and how hard should we try to keep him on our list given the age and increasing fragility of May? Given the crazy offers last year for McKay who went to Essendon and has been actually very good I'm not sure Tomlinson isn't just as good.

He was great at the Dees. Was a senior player till the youngsters came through then I think he was in a fitness role with the club for a year or two after that. McRae from the dogs would be a similar player and is worth a look. Having said that I think he would want to be starting 22. Not sure which club would want him. Maybe not us. As a matter of interest with Trac and Clarry out would you want him in our senior side this week? Again not sure. Oops I've lost my decisiveness. All these decisions to be made. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.

Which makes me think of the weekend just past when McRae complains about the non-fifty which apparently cost them the game. Collingwood won so many games by a goal or less over the past 18 odd months and never once has he come out and said how lucky they were to win a game when clearly they got the run of it with the umpires. He's a dog, McRae. The AFL should send him a please explain and fine him. I'll throw in an extremely poor analogy but it's like he wants to stir up the Collingwood mor**s even more just like Trump did to get the ridiculous riots upon the White House.

Don't agree at all. He is in the best form of his short and injury interrupted career and is building nicely to an excellent 2025. I am so glad he re-signed. They only scored something like 48 points so our defence was good with Tommo there and didn't need Petty back. He did a lot of contesting up the line and took a couple of good contested marks. People will say he didn't offer much up forward, but I see the slow emergence of a good forward line with Petty a part of that. Disco will improve next year, and JVR has come a long way this year as well, but ultimately those three are young and haven't developed a system yet which while frustrating and quite damning of the coaching department, the building blocks are there for success already. With Trac, Fritsch and Kossy, a further improved Chandler and a system to work to we can have a very functional forward line. I think the question should be asked, what are they doing to JVR. He is in ruck, down back then took a lovely contested mark and was then subbed????? If you were kind to the coaches and I'm happy to be coz they are the ones there, it will help develop him as a footballer looking to the future, but I hope they settle him down, coz otherwise someone will come knocking asking him the same questions and we'll lose him. Surely he's a forward?

My left field want to try and lure across is Balta from Richmond but I don't like the idea of taking a player from Yze. Balta is just what we need in my opinion. He is an upgrade on Tomlinson and can play both ends of the ground, (yes I know, not always successfully) but the thing that he has is a big body. If he is given a role in a good side I think he would be very valuable and is probably gettable if we persuade him to come across.

Wow, that's surely one of the best ever draft boards. Stars everywhere.

Hey mods can I get this topic post moved to the main board. Thanks

Important re-signings I would have thought Windsor, has had a fantastic debut year. Debuted in Round 1 and has not only held his spot but become an integral part of the side. While looking every bit an 18 year old with a skinny frame his speed is electric and endurance at a high level for such a young bod. Re-signed for two more years taking him till the end of the 2028 season is a fantastic result and one we should celebrate. Petty has re-signed for 2 more years as well taking him till the end of 2027. Also a great get as he was nearly gone during last years off-season and this is a great show of faith by Petty to commit to the club. Obviously hasn't had a great season but I'm pretty sure his best is ahead of him. Injury free I think the next three years will be great years for the developing tall and again we should celebrate these two very important signings. Well done MFC

Watched the announcement video and the BCNA visit video as well. Both great vids and the second one a great initiative by the club. You can't stay down too long as a group and it was great to see the boys energised.

Oh god, kill me now. What a load of maudling sh##te

It was emotional I agree. But to keep it in context, we are a shell of what we were and a team that has a hard edge. It has taken a while to come to light but every good team has a group of hard men who when the fights break out, when the physicality crosses the line, they come to the fore rallying the flag. I don't want to single out one player and pick on him but in this case I will. Bowie. Since Bowie has come back into the team we have hardly won a game. I understand the model that says we want class off the half back line, but with our team this isn't working. Look at our strength versus weight body index. We are too light. We have got our recruiting wrong. Billings, McAdam, Bowie, Fullarton, Shache. These are all players who lack grunt in the contest. On top of that we have a number of similar players within the team. Bowie, Petty, Windsor, Howes to name a few. It is a balance. I'm not calling for any of those players to be dropped necessarily but you have to have the grunt players to keep it in balance. We don't. And until we redress that imbalance we are always going to get beaten by teams that go to war with us physically. Collingwood understand this. They are a dirty team. Until we get a team that can physically stand up to them we wont win anything. If Goodwin can get it together for that one game, round 24 and topple the Pies and maybe do enough damage to stop them winning this years flag, then that will be enough for me. Because our list says we have forgotten about the art of war.

Yeah I do and I was bouyed by that win. Similar to the win against Geelong this year. We've fallen a long way since those heady days. What I didn't take into account was the point WCW made as to what were the Brayshaws wishes. This may have clouded our judgement to go in so soft. Combined with the Fremantle loss maybe we needed a reset. But I still maintain Moore knew what he was doing and we've been handed a lesson by Collingwood, and if we don't learn from that lesson we stand for nothing. In these situations we really miss both Brayshaw and Hibberd. We really miss hard men.

I was very interested to see the fall out from Moore's use of his knee as a weapon. Anyone who thinks Moore didn't know what he was doing or that he didn't know where his knee was going is being naive in my opinion. They practice using their knee and jumping into a bag all the time at training. I don't think he wanted to end Petracca's season but he certainly aimed to hurt. It was a follow up to last years Maynard "dog" act. This was the first time we had played since then and even though Melbourne's focus was lost by it's pathetic effort the week before Collingwood's wasn't. One of Moore's generals had been called to account and the Collingwood Captain was going to back him up to the hilt. This was an act of war. Collingwood won the war again and we didn't even know it was a war. We have come out looking like fools. Again. If we are to survive as a team in this era of potential greatness we have to realise whats going on. I am really only interested in one more match for the rest of the year. Round 24 against Collingwood. They have done it to us again. We have let it be done to us again. Until we beat Collingwood and physically beat Collingwood, we will never be any good again. Basic combat warfare. Come on Goodwin, get your head out of the "woe is me" [censored] and get us up for one game.

Hello men, Love the podcast and you're contributions to the club. We are very lucky to have you guys involved and your positive analysis (although Binman would suggest it is an even analysis) has helped me to appreciate the game a lot more. My observation last night in a tide of positives, all well deserved, is of an opposition player in Zac Guthrie. He had a great game. I know we held (possibly through Turner ) Stewart to a low involvement in the game, but I wonder if they were happy to let that happen as long as Guthrie was having such an impact. I thought Nibbler had a poor game by his standards, but was more worried by the efforts of Billings and Chandler. I think Guthrie played on, or more, ran off Chandler for most of the night. Do the team see this as a concern moving forward. I think we should look at developing a taller half forward option as it looked to me to be one of the only negatives on a great night. With the availability of McAdam and Melksham after the bye, I think Billings and Maybe Chandler have put their spots in danger. Thanks and Go Dees

This will be a good game. I think Geelong should be favorites and have the better form, their last two wins full of merit. Melbourne got a bit beat up before the bye with Oliver and May both playing injured. Our advantage is that we have had two long stretches between games and after taking a while we got our game going in the second half last week, we are the fresher team this time around. May, Oliver and Petty should be improved, we should be focussed and hopefully Geelong are a bit flat.

I'm not so sure. Your argument is sound enough and along with Dee Dee on the previous page you cover well the reasons the ground isn't open for training. the other one being the grounds people would prefer as little traffic as possible on the surface, but I still maintain it is very doable and it's your negative attitude that is the same as those in charge and the reason it doesn't happen. As with most things in life, things generally don't happen when there is no financial benefit to the people in charge. Just open one gate and keep people in one area. Security could be covered mainly by cameras that are already in place and staffing wouldn't need to be a lot. I agree a lot of the training sessions wouldn't attract a lot of people but the lead in to Anzac Day and finals would and it is an iconic stadium, a chance to see players training there would be a very positive attraction for the game.