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Then don't discuss it! Next people will be saying close demonland because we don't like what is said on it. If we want to talk about a subject and we do so respectfully and within the sites rules who are you to rain on the parade?

Bob it was a proposition not a fait accompli. You will note I completed my proposition with a question mark. I hadn't thought it through as it was indicative of the possibilities that having drafts picks offers, it was not a suggestion of an actual trade. I say keep Hogan but if he wants to go then we should explore all possibilities.

rpfc, it is harder to feel superior amongst equals, thank god for idiots.

Bob, you ignore using those draft picks to secure stars at other clubs. Hogan for picks, picks for Kelly & Lynch?

Specially a Grand Final with Weideman kicking the winner after the siren Edit:- for us!

Sorry Wise, "Q1: based on history of genuine AFL quality forwards involved in trades" Was Ablett the senior a quality forward? Was he involved in a trade? Or has Hogan played on the wing on the ball or down back is he still a forward? - Carlton received Lachie Henderson & pick 12 (Fyfe -Carlisle - Talia - Jetta - Gawn all went later) My point is good forwards do get traded, you can win or you can lose but you must keep your mind open to opportunities. Or we can have fun speculating.

A1 - Templeton, Ablett, Lockett, Fevola, Hall, Kennedy, Franklin there are others all involved in trades. Some decent forwards there, all kicked more goals in a season than Hogan. I would argue that the winners were Footscray - Templeton - Geelong Ablett - Evens on Lockett(StKilda got 6 players inc Joel Smith, Wakelin, ) - Carlton Fevola, Hall - StKilda got Heath Black & Nick Dal Santo - WCE Kennedy - Sydney Franklin

But Wise we could swap the picks for Kelly or some other superstar. That is the point don't you think? To have a discussion, talk about the team we love and our mad ideas to make us invincible.

So Wise what is the problem with talking hypotheticals? I put it to you if Freo offered young Brayshaw and this years and next years first pick for Hogan would you take it?

I think you take yourself and this site a bit too seriously. Trade HOGAN is a discussion, if you don't like it you are free to say so, others can continue to comment, most of it rubbish but why close it down? This petulant demand to shut down anything one disagrees with is futile. This is a supporters site, much of that written here is without foundation and merely speculation. To think that the club feels embarrassed by some supporters online rantings is silly. I would not rule out trading any player but it would have to be to our advantage. Trading Hogan or Viney or Oliver seems outrageous but if it meant 5 flags in the next 10 years where do I sign. Lighten up Steve we are in the finals.

If nothing else playing well without Hogan will be good for Hogan. He is not the messiah and may have to rethink his attitude, perhaps he may even choose to chase and tackle and perhaps even try a second effort. I think he will stay but trading him would not be the end of the world.

On my keyboard it is an upper case 5. See %5%5. The upper case 1 looks like ! - cool

Is that on Foxtel or Netflix?

afl.com says that Lewis fined $2000 for a stray elbow! Rule of the week! What is a stray elbow? The word stray is not in the rules. The word elbow is not in the rules so how can that be?

Que?

So that's why people keep telling me to go to blazers!

Ernie that would be a bowl of apples & oranges, it is not fruit without the banana.

I think he is holding his mashie, could be his niblick. No it's his baffing spoon.

Ernie, I think a Freudian slip has engaged the auto censor, tidbits may be what you were looking for. Uncle B on the other hand would no doubt be thinking TlTS

Sprung cohabiting.

No, I’m Spartacus.

Mark listed at 208cm but played at 120kg. Here he is with the great Andrew Gaze who waslisted at 201cm

Time for a cat gif

Daisy one has to draw the line somewhere, and since the operation I can be of no further assistance.

Surely you jest.