ManDee

So you believe everything in the media. Which 2 - 1st rounders? What are we going to do with them? Why would I need to apologize your chicken little sky is falling attitude is over the top I have read the rumours as have you. What is to stop us using the trade to make is better with established players? Would Gaff, May, Preuss, KK make us better? We seem to play better without Hogan. So chill we can end up a better side out of this. Go dees.

Wtf are you talking about? You have no idea what we have been offered. You can rant as much as you like but this could be the best deal (or worst) in the history of football. The truth is we don't know yet so why lose your mind? Just because you repeat your rants does not make them true. Champ

If Hogan goes what do we get in return? You have no idea. This could be the best deal for the MFC ever. Yes Hogan may go on to be the best player ever, but if we win 4 flags in a row who wins?

Overreaction or what. You have no idea what the details are. Get a grip man.

The silence is deafening from all parties. It makes me think there really is a deal being negotiated. I hope we get a good deal, no a great deal.

If it is 5 & 6 or similar I don't think we go to the draft with both. I would expect more horse trading for established stars. We my friend are in the window for a flag!

Febes that is where I differ, we can benefit form this deal, so I'd say no news means it could be good news. They are probably negotiating the steak knives. Edit:- No player is more important than the club. If we trade out of a player and get better value elsewhere then go for it.

What is the purpose of the entity? If the purpose is to reduce tax the answer is no.

When you say things like this it devalues whatever you say. If Freo offered 5 + 6 + Cerra + Brayshaw + Fyfe +Neale + next years first pick + still never enough? There is a point that everyone & everything is on the table. I understand that you value him highly but that value must have a price.

Beeb that was a very different MFC

Would we be better chasing father son Darcy Moore?

And that worked well!

Still has one I believe.

Cost them 2 first rounders.

Think about the risks to them. Jesse meets a woman that will not leave Melbourne(the city) and she has his baby. Would he still go?

I listened on my brothers car radio in the front yard, he caught the train to the match, I was too young to go (7) Edit: That can't be right must have been my mothers or fathers car, my brother was only 16. So the car was either a Zephyr or a Borgward, yes that's how long ago our last flag was.

Leave the gro-lights on a bit longer

Then don't discuss it! Next people will be saying close demonland because we don't like what is said on it. If we want to talk about a subject and we do so respectfully and within the sites rules who are you to rain on the parade?

Bob it was a proposition not a fait accompli. You will note I completed my proposition with a question mark. I hadn't thought it through as it was indicative of the possibilities that having drafts picks offers, it was not a suggestion of an actual trade. I say keep Hogan but if he wants to go then we should explore all possibilities.

rpfc, it is harder to feel superior amongst equals, thank god for idiots.

Bob, you ignore using those draft picks to secure stars at other clubs. Hogan for picks, picks for Kelly & Lynch?

Specially a Grand Final with Weideman kicking the winner after the siren Edit:- for us!

Sorry Wise, "Q1: based on history of genuine AFL quality forwards involved in trades" Was Ablett the senior a quality forward? Was he involved in a trade? Or has Hogan played on the wing on the ball or down back is he still a forward? - Carlton received Lachie Henderson & pick 12 (Fyfe -Carlisle - Talia - Jetta - Gawn all went later) My point is good forwards do get traded, you can win or you can lose but you must keep your mind open to opportunities. Or we can have fun speculating.

A1 - Templeton, Ablett, Lockett, Fevola, Hall, Kennedy, Franklin there are others all involved in trades. Some decent forwards there, all kicked more goals in a season than Hogan. I would argue that the winners were Footscray - Templeton - Geelong Ablett - Evens on Lockett(StKilda got 6 players inc Joel Smith, Wakelin, ) - Carlton Fevola, Hall - StKilda got Heath Black & Nick Dal Santo - WCE Kennedy - Sydney Franklin

But Wise we could swap the picks for Kelly or some other superstar. That is the point don't you think? To have a discussion, talk about the team we love and our mad ideas to make us invincible.