mo64

You can add Dunstan to those who'll be leaving. That's a lot of senior players leaving the club, with very few obvious youngsters at Casey filling the void. I'm usually in the camp that likes list turnover, but I'm concerned with how unbalanced our list may be next year. Aside from Howes, I don't see any Casey mids or key forwards for that matter progressing to AFL level next year. If Schache isn't selected this week, his re-signing is bewildering. We are probably in our best position ever with draft picks and salary cap to land a "Big Fish", but sadly there is no gun out there that we covet. I agree that we need to utilise our 1st and 2nd round picks, and hopefully land some AFL ready talent, like we did the year we got Jackson, Kozzie and Rivers.

I didn't realise we had Tim English to come in. Grundy is a former AA ruckman, just like I'm a former 30 year old.

Grundy stepped on it at training. Purely an accident of course.😁

Giving Spargo a 4 year deal last year meant the end for Toby. Bedford has a 10 times higher ceiling than Spargo. Poor list management.

I wish we got Hayden McLean instead of Grundy. He was the perfect fit.

I'm in the camp where accidents will happen on the footy field, but this was avoidable. The camera shot behind Maynard is damning. There was no reason for him to brace on contact. He was in no danger of being injured by a collision with Gus, if he just kept his arms up or straight ahead. The correct penalty should be minimum of 4 weeks, but we know how the MRO and tribunal chook lotto works. He'll get off.

Our forward line has been disfunctional most of the year, and just when we thought we had the answers, we lose Petty and Melksham. Fritta and T Mac missed large chucks of the season. The game wasn't lost at the selection table. You can't blame the selection of Laurie as sub for our insipid 1st quarter. And anyone suggesting that Grundy would have made a difference are delusional. Max was brilliant as the sole ruck, and Grundy isn't a forward. Can't see us beating the Blues next week unless Goodwin comes up with a better plan for our forward entries.

Didn't Clarry express similar grievances on the track with our fitness staff? Seems like the club targeted Mcadam prior to Melksham doing his ACL. A genuine goal kicking half forward is exactly what we need.

Firstly, Laurie was vital as a sub in our comeback win against the Swans. And if Grundy was a "game breaker or vital to the cause" he'd be in the team. Laurie deserves to be sub, but if not, JJ will get the gig. Grundy is the least likely to be the sub.

Very cryptic or perverse. 😂 Took me a good 40 seconds to work it out.

I have no issue with what was said on Footy Classified, or by Jeremy Howe. Their opinions were shared by 99% of the football world when the trade was made. And it's proven to be correct. As for Grundy meeting with Port players and Hinkley, if the club has told Grundy's management that he's free to explore other options, then there's no issue. If the meeting was held over Zoom, we wouldn't be talking about it. If Max goes down and Grundy is required, meeting with Port should have no impact on his performance. If he's mentally checked out of the MFC, then that would be reflected on the training track, and he wouldn't get selected anyway.

I think that Jefferson has shown enough to suggest that he has the tools to make it at AFL level. For a majority of the year he was playing alongside 2/3 experienced AFL forwards who tend to command the ball. BBB, T Mac and Schache are still on our list next year, and my concern is whether Jefferson's development will be hindered. He needs to be the no.1 or 2 key forward at Casey to build his confidence.

How is it that people can't see that both Max and Grundy perform better when they have the no.1 rucking duties for a majority of the game? Ruckmen generally aren't burst players. Max has elite endurance and can wear down opposition rucks. As we've seen this year, splitting the ruck time actually dilutes Max's impact on the game. People on here were calling for Max to be dropped. It's no coincidence that the team has performed better since Max has gone single handed, especially our forward line.

I've addressed this before, but Grundy turns 30 next year and will still have 3 years remaining on his contract at the end of 2024. If we hold on to him for one more year, and he finds himself at Casey for most of it, no other club will take on his 3 yr $650k contract at age 31.

So you're expecting Grundy, who's spent all year trying to develop his forward craft and failed, is now a capable key defender for the finals? I think most on here are misreading the tea leaves. We want Grundy out as much as Port want him. There won't be any hard ball on our part. And we won't hold him to his contract as a trade manoeuvre.

I agree, but his ideal successor would be someone in the 23 - 25 age bracket who may be happy to develop at Casey, or shows ability up forward.

Why are people surmising that Max may sustain an injury in his latter playing days, but Grundy won't? Grundy turns 30 next year, so I can never understand why people think he's an ideal successor when Max retires.

There has been some ridiculous MRP and tribunal decisions this year, but this wasn't one of them. Weitering inadvertently glanced Greene's face whilst trying to remove Greene from his headlock on McGovern. Fine was correct decision. On the other hand Bedford was stiff. Hope he gets off on appeal.

Seriously, why are people saying that they have sources on a player's medical condition? If Fritta has the same mobility as he did when he came back on the ground, I'd play him regardless of the diagnosis.

A tall loitering in our forward line is actually detrimental to the side. And your choice of words is apt when describing Grundy and Gawn up forward. The Pies would waltz the ball out of their backline.

I'm not saying Briggs was available, but giving an example that there are 2nd and 3rd string ruckmen that could fullfil a role as the no.1 ruck if given the chance. But you wouldn't be giving them $650k a year for 5 years to be an emergency in case Max got injured.

Your summising that if we didn't get Grundy, we wouldn't have got someone else. Grundy was hardly spectacular in Max's absence, and borderline average when playing with Max. Keiren Briggs was the Giants 3rd choice ruckman when the season started, and is now their clear no.1. There are ruckmen on AFL lists who just need the chance to show that they are capable. And history has proven that. Grundy is a trade asset, but we won't get much more than what we paid. And we have to trade him this off-season. If his 2024 season is replicated at the Dees, by 2025 he will be a 31yo ruckman who has hardly played senior football for 3 years, with 3 years remaining on his contract. He will become a massive liability on our books.

Whilst we're still in contention this year, and Max could potentially get injured, Goodwin can't dishearten Grundy by openly talking about trading him. I tend to believe the former rather than the latter.

The Ins ratings are spot on. Goody has finally admitted that Grundy hasn't worked. To give him credit for Max' form is fanciful. If we didn't get Grundy, we would have got someone else. Toby Bedford B+. He missed the start of the season through injury, but is now an automatic selection in a team that's performing well. Shame to lose him. Weid D. He's been the underperforming player he was at Melbourne.

There is no such thing as a bidding war for a player. The player will nominate his club of choice, and he either goes there or remains at his existing club. And Grundy is a 99% chance of leaving. The club doesn't want to pay $650k for a back up ruckman until Max retires. And it's been mentioned previously that a player can't be paid by 3 clubs, so we can't pay a portion of Grundy's contract whilst the Pies are still paying a significant chunk.