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Cleary suggesting they offered 46 and we want a pick in the 20s. Don't think we'll get 23, they'll probably get something around there for Zerk-Thatcher and we'll get that

5 becomes 6 or 7 with academy picks. It's still a bit of a gamble to assume WC are as bad next year as they were this year. Some more luck with injuries and 11 games at Optus...

Presumably they think Curtain will be available there. Would we be willing to trade it for their future first plus something, and use 13 and an early second to get 10 from GC or 7 from Geelong?

I don't buy it. Poisoned by the filth for his BnF chat, more like

He's a Fwd/ Ruck, from all reports. Seems like he averaged about 5 hit outs a game in the VFL (according to Twitter)

It's amazing compared to other sports. High NHL draft picks are traded like there's no tomorrow

But clearly not that strongly. If she was a die hard Bomber she'd be barracking for Brisbane

As good as it would have been for Trac to win, you've gotta feel for the Bont. Seriously dudded twice

Neale's got it. The worst Browlow win since?

Hawthorn have obviously planned to be as physical as possible, and the Dees have held up well. But they have run over the marl to push our players multiple times, and the umps just watch them do it. You could see us getting frustrated and starting tk through our weight around.

Steven May did too, but not nearly as much

They may not have had Mad Monday but they are definitely having Wacky Wednesday if Grundy's instagram stories are anything to go by

Our mids being smashed

This is the issue and where I think the AFL has stuffed up. Allowing the 'he had a right to launch' argument gives Collingwood exactly what they need. He did not have a right to contest the ball in that way, just as players don't have the right to tackle with a slinging action or bump in a way that hits a player high. Maynard being suspended won't kill the spoil, like some are claiming. But it will stop people like Maynard acting like a human cannonball

Live pictures of Maynard's testimony

Seems a few of the Dees weren't too pleased with Maynard's visit https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/09/11/melbourne-teammate-left-angered-by-maynards-awkward-brayshaw-visit/

Not sure about Max's foot but Clarry has a compression bandage on his left knee in a photo on Instagram (featuring future father daughter Tilly Smith)

Oh, this is interesting. He's too slight to be a key back at the moment, but he has a lot of mongrel, reads the play pretty well and has good hands. JJ needs to come in next week

The thing we do have going for us is our match fitness (bar injuries, obviously). We are the fittest team still in it, so if we get throught the SF and PF, I wouldn't be concerned coming up against a Collibgwood who's had an extra week's break

The second part of my response was directed at the headbutt, but no I don't think he'll be suspended for the Brayshaw hit either. Whether he should or not is a different question. I don't think he will

The expected score is going to be ugly. But if we take the British view of the game, we won the moral victory! See you in the moral Prelim, ya losers

JVR's elbow has probably saved TMac. Bring Grundy in, play him 80% ruck and put Max forward. We're out of options.

He won't get suspended for either. He's not missing a prelim for that