An extremely well-respected current player recently told me to expect some pain this year. Why I asked.

"Selfishness" was the one word answer.

I can see it in the Demons too. It's not just kicking for goal when you should pass, or not chasing hard enough.

It's putting teammates under pressure so you don't take a hit or have the responsibility of moving the ball forward.

It's off field too, look no further than Sylvia and McLean.

BTW, here is my 2008 'selfish' list:

- Yze

- Robbo

- Sylvia

- Bruce

- Miller

- McLean

Disappointing frequency of current/former/suspended members of MFC leadership groups.

And some selfish blasts from the past:

- Jakovich

- Leoncelli

- Johnstone

- Farmer

Any more? Anybody disagree?

An extremely well-respected current player recently told me to expect some pain this year. Why I asked.

"Selfishness" was the one word answer.

I can see it in the Demons too. It's not just kicking for goal when you should pass, or not chasing hard enough.

It's putting teammates under pressure so you don't take a hit or have the responsibility of moving the ball forward.

It's off field too, look no further than Sylvia and McLean.

BTW, here is my 2008 'selfish' list:

- Yze

- Robbo

- Sylvia

- Bruce

- Miller

- McLean

Disappointing frequency of current/former/suspended members of MFC leadership groups.

And some selfish blasts from the past:

- Jakovich

- Leoncelli

- Johnstone

- Farmer

Any more? Anybody disagree?

Leoncelli? Please elaborate.

Leoncelli? Please elaborate.

He threw that name in there just to prove that he was talking from his a-hole.

An extremely well-respected current player recently told me to expect some pain this year. Why I asked.

"Selfishness" was the one word answer.

Rodney_G, current MFC player, or from another club?, please clarify

BTW, here is my 2008 'selfish' list:

- Yze

- Robbo

- Sylvia

- Bruce

- Miller

- McLean

If Miller was a little bit more selfish and elected to kick long instead of looking to handpass off as his first option I think that might be a good thing

Agree with the others though

Nasher, are you saying that Yze, Robbo, Sylvia, Bruce, and McLean are not selfish?

I consider Leoncelli to be selfish because, despite outwardly showing unselfish traits like working hard and putting his body on the line, as a leader at the MFC (appointed or otherwise) he always seemed to be one of the first to drop his head and give up when things weren’t going well. Arguing with umpires and being the victim – something I think is responsible for many of the blowout losses suffered in recent years.

DeeReaming, it was a player from another club.

Tell you friend the footballer to wake up and smell the roses.

What a complete load of sh1te - he lives in an industry of self absorbed selfish big heads.

Is Acker selfish ?? then take away his 3 premierships then.

Are Kerr and Cousins selfish ?? take away their premiership and Cousins brownlow then.

What about Steve johnson? and he is still doing off field stuff. Take his Norm Smith away.

Put it this way, we just have to get these blokes passionate and playing well on the field.

I would rather have a beer with Ben Holland as a good bloke, but prefer to have Sylvia on the ground playing for Melbourne.

our success will depend on Bailey reversing our big weakness as Sheedy identified, getting the team to play for each other.

and I am afraid there are plenty of self absorbed characters who play great team footy. You cannot survive as a player if you don't.

what team does this respected player play for ?

what team does this respected player play for ?

Not telling. You might want to take away his premiership!

Whats the freaking point of all of this

He threw that name in there just to prove that he was talking from his a-hole.

I tend to agree, Leoncelli was far from our best player but he worked his arse off to get the most out of his career. With 'celli you knew what you were going to get every week.

Whats the freaking point of all of this

Who knows.

I think one of Brad Millers weaknesses is that he's not selfish enough, he more so than a lot of others tries to get his teammates into the play (Whether that be because of his own perceptions of his skill shortcomings or a genuine endeavour to be a 'team' player).

He needs to get back the agression and gangbusters attitude he had when he burst onto the scene..

sounds like this mystery person has "selfish" mistaken for "frontrunners"

those the Dees have an endless amount of

How can you call a forward selfish?

Their job is to kick goals, so if they get the ball inside 50 then I'd encourage them to have a shot 9 times out of 10.

Sorry Rodney

I stopped reading when you said current footballer

All players are complete wankers, and thats a fact

They run around the field chasing some leather filled with air and it leads them to believe they are to be worshipped

No wonder so many of them get whacked when they are out on the town

Absolute tossers, and that includes Demon players too, dont you worry about that

Sorry Rodney

I stopped reading when you said current footballer

All players are complete wankers, and thats a fact

They run around the field chasing some leather filled with air and it leads them to believe they are to be worshipped

No wonder so many of them get whacked when they are out on the town

Absolute tossers, and that includes Demon players too, dont you worry about that

You ar on fire tonight YM. First you want to not renew your memebership, and now you throw a blanket across the whole of the AFL, labelling them complete wankers.

I would say the ratio of wankers in any walk of life is probably comparable to AFL players,and that the reason some get picked in clubs and bars is due to them running into some of these "wankers" around town.

Sorry Rodney

I stopped reading when you said current footballer

All players are complete wankers, and thats a fact

They run around the field chasing some leather filled with air and it leads them to believe they are to be worshipped

No wonder so many of them get whacked when they are out on the town

Absolute tossers, and that includes Demon players too, dont you worry about that

You are on fire tonight YM. First you want to not renew your memebership, and now you throw a blanket across the whole of the AFL, labelling them complete wankers.

I would say the ratio of wankers in any walk of life is probably comparable to AFL players, and that the reason some get picked in clubs and bars is due to them running into some of these "wankers" around town.

Sorry Rodney

I stopped reading when you said current footballer

All players are complete wankers, and thats a fact

They run around the field chasing some leather filled with air and it leads them to believe they are to be worshipped

No wonder so many of them get whacked when they are out on the town

Absolute tossers, and that includes Demon players too, dont you worry about that

Trust you to know about 'absolute tossers'.

An extremely well-respected current player recently told me to expect some pain this year. Why I asked.

"Selfishness" was the one word answer.

I can see it in the Demons too. It's not just kicking for goal when you should pass, or not chasing hard enough.

It's putting teammates under pressure so you don't take a hit or have the responsibility of moving the ball forward.

It's off field too, look no further than Sylvia and McLean.

BTW, here is my 2008 'selfish' list:

- Yze

- Robbo

- Sylvia

- Bruce

- Miller

- McLean

Disappointing frequency of current/former/suspended members of MFC leadership groups.

And some selfish blasts from the past:

- Jakovich

- Leoncelli

- Johnstone

- Farmer

Any more? Anybody disagree?

Highly simplistic analysis which drags too many undeserving players into its bracket, and not enough of others. Obviously there will be some pain this season - as a one word rationalisation for it, 'selfishness' is about as good as any other vaguely negative characteristic you could devise.

It really doesn't matter who said it. In some ways it's true, in many others it's not. Great formula though: make a vague yet controversial post, refuse to detail sources, provide superficial analysis, ask others to engage and expand.

Kinda bespeaks a person who's a little...... bored?

Only a few sleeps now, mate.

Then the real pain begins.