Well I wonder who/what the Crows are going to want..

Maybe jamar + pick 53.

Jamar straight out. Why give anything else? He wants to return to Melbourne and wants to play for the MelbourneFC. Adelaide have their hands tied in any trade discussion. They won't be able to push the lever or else they will end up with nothing and Meesen goes into the PSD. And seeing that both Hudson and Meesen are on the way out, they couldn't afford to do this.

Frawley to Saints for pick 9. Pick 4 and 9 to WCE for Judd.

Robbo to Bullies, Bullies midfielder (or first rounder) to Crows, Hudson to Bullies, Meeson plus something to Dees.

As long as our 'something' is ok and we have done our homework on Meeson then we should come out of this draft way in front.

In reality it will be more complicated but the gist is above.

IMO our only real worry (if we get Judd) going forward is the Ruck.

This was done b4 they were drafted

No kidding.

if we don't get Meesen we might get Blake.

A freind connected to the Cats told me Friday that Blake has been offered a contract by Melbourne.

Obviously the club are going to sort out the ruck one way or the other which make Jamar total trade bait.

and the other thing that is interesting. Carlton & Tigs declared no interest in Meesen. Ifg we want him lets just take him in PSD. Stuff the crows. WE owe them nothing

One or the other, sorry. John Meesen left read and for good reason. Having Paul Johnson, Mark Blake and John Meesen in the same line-up (and to a lesser extent in this instance, White), would make it difficult for Meesen to get in the squad.

and the other thing that is interesting. Carlton & Tigs declared no interest in Meesen. Ifg we want him lets just take him in PSD. Stuff the crows. WE owe them nothing

If Melbourne get Meesen, is there any point in keeping Jamar if the Crows will take him?

No way should we wait for the PSD - for Adelaide's sake we will give them Jamar. Pick 3 in the PSD could snag ... something else?!

if we don't get Meesen we might get Blake.

A freind connected to the Cats told me Friday that Blake has been offered a contract by Melbourne.

Obviously the club are going to sort out the ruck one way or the other which make Jamar total trade bait.

I personally think that we should not get Blake. To me he looks like a back-up ruckman at best. I saw Meesen as a junior and he looked like a very good player. For some reason Blake just doesn't look as if he has what it takes as he is pretty slow and not a big engine. IMO he is specialty is his tap work but everything else he does on the footy field looks quite ordinary. I'd much rather Meesen.

Been following MFC long?

How quickly they forget...

Tell me about it, i am sickened by the supporters of our club just giving up on McLean after ONE average season. Look at it this way, his development has been accelerated, 06 was probably ahead of where most players are at and after a year where he has been given the top tagger for the first time and has combated injury so many supporters are willing to write him off!

There's a good reason why we are said to be the club with the most fickle supporters.

Frawley to Saints for pick 9. Pick 4 and 9 to WCE for Judd.

Robbo to Bullies, Bullies midfielder (or first rounder) to Crows, Hudson to Bullies, Meeson plus something to Dees.

As long as our 'something' is ok and we have done our homework on Meeson then we should come out of this draft way in front.

In reality it will be more complicated but the gist is above.

IMO our only real worry (if we get Judd) going forward is the Ruck.

Meesen will come cheap. He wants to come home and we can get him for nothing in the PSD.

In all honesty we want to get rid of Jamar. He isn't much chop, so imo a straight swap (plus the obligatory swap of late round draft picks) lands us Messen. Hopefully we get the improvement in draft picks. Then Jamar will be good for something.

Meesen sounds allright. Much better than Jamar

A straight swap for Jamar.

In round 16 this year in his comeback game John Meesen's stats were 21 possessions, 9 marks and 4 goals. Not bad!

his 'peak' is lower than shark shyte

You don't say.

In round 16 this year in his comeback game John Meesen's stats were 21 possessions, 9 marks and 4 goals. Not bad!

That would be in the sanfl. However, he has played only 2 AFL games and his stats are quite underwhelming - http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/clubs/adela...n-meesen/250086

By way of contrast Mark Jamar has played 52 AFL games and kicked 17 goals. If they don't want Jamarn then Messen has to be valued at less than the Russian and I'd be waiting to pick him up in the PSD because he isn't worth a further round draft pick IMO. At best we can find a trade or swap our fourth round picks - that's about it.

I'm all for developing our list and going for youth anyway.

tucked away in an "Australian" article

"Melbourne believes that it will satisfy Adelaide next week and secure 21-year-old ruckman John Meesen from the Crows. "He wants to come to Melbourne and will either get him in the pre-season draft or for a third-round selection during trade week, it's up to Adelaide," Cameron said."

so he's not exactly costing an arm or leg !! good !!

tucked away in an "Australian" article

"Melbourne believes that it will satisfy Adelaide next week and secure 21-year-old ruckman John Meesen from the Crows. "He wants to come to Melbourne and will either get him in the pre-season draft or for a third-round selection during trade week, it's up to Adelaide," Cameron said."

so he's not exactly costing an arm or leg !! good !!

Meesen's only 21, so he's worth a punt at that cost.