According to Jake Niall in todays Age, John Meesen is keen to return to Victoria next year with the Demons likely to be is destination. He was number 8 pick in the 2004 draft and was recruited from the Falcons. He's a big unit and was a highly regarded junior. Injury held him back this year. Nothing said as to what the Crows want in return.

Thoughts?

id offer pick 21 and a player for him(obviously not a top liner)

We wont be offering much until we know about Judd, hence why ever one wants the Judd deal done on the first day.

Give em jamar and the big finger! we gave them thommo cheaply.

id offer pick 21 and a player for him(obviously not a top liner)

Gee, this is going to be a stellar trade week. Bring it on!

A footy loving mate of mine made the remark once that trade week is the second best week in footy, second only to GF week. I agree!

Gee, this is going to be a stellar trade week. Bring it on!

A footy loving mate of mine made the remark once that trade week is the second best week in footy, second only to GF week. I agree!

well it will be this year...last year was a total yawn!!!

Going to be mayhem this year... beaudy !!! lol

I hope we trade big this year also! Last year was a joke! Meesen sounds good.

Jamar would be off, if Adelaide lose both Meeson and Hudson they'll need a ruck anyway. Maybe draft position swap a low thirty pick from us for a high thirty pick from them. That should settle it and I'd be quite happy with the result.

How about this idea?

If both Meeson (pick 8 in 2004 but has been ravaged by injury) and Judd both choose Melbourne as their club.

Melbourne:

Gain: Judd, Meeson,

Lose: Pick 4 + Aaron Davey + Pick 37 (a sweetener- how about Chris Johnson)

WestCoast:

Gain: Pick 4 + Pick 10 + (a sweetener- Chris Johnson)

Lose: Judd

Adelaide:

Gain: Aaron Davey + Pick 37

Lose: Pick 10 + Meeson

Seems pretty fair for all 3 clubs. WestCoast get 2 top10 picks plus a young West Australian. Adelaide get Aaron Davey (they want him badly) for not too much. We get a blistering midfielder and a promising young ruck that could possibly solve our future ruck problems.

Basically we trade Davey for Pick10 + Meeson and we'll chuck in our 3rd rounder...this seems fair for both teams.

if Judd chooses us, we will probably need 2 top10 picks to get the deal done. while I would prefer to keep Davey, wev'e got to lose something good to get Judd.

Jamar would be off, if Adelaide lose both Meeson and Hudson they'll need a ruck anyway.

They still have Biglands, Maric and Griffin. Why would they want Jamar who is pretty much at his peak?

wev got to lose something good to get judd

We are going to have to put up much more than that.

It would be a McLean, pick 4 & 21 trade Sylvinator for Judd. Perhaps more.

But I can certainly deal with that for Judda!

We are going to have to put up much more than that.

It would be a McLean, pick 4 & 21 trade Sylvinator for Judd. Perhaps more.

But I can certainly deal with that for Judda!

dont be silly. Mclean + 4+ 21 would be a masssiivvveee rip off for us.

3 players for 1 (inclding our star 21yrold future captain)---are you a WCE supporter?

if Judd chooses MFC as his prefered club we will be getting Judd for under market value. if he chooses us WestCoast are basically forced to deal with only us.

the deal will be:

Sylvia + 4

Bruce/Johnstone + 4'

Davey+ 4+ sweetener (maybe 21 or Chris Johnson).

id say the only players off limits for the demons are Mclean, Rivers, Bate, Jones

3 players for 1 (inclding our star 21yrold future captain)

Future Captain???

Hahaha. A future trade or delisting pal.

He has shown nothing this year.

Jones is the new man on campus!

Future Captain???

Hahaha. A future trade or delisting pal.

He has shown nothing this year.

Jones is the new man on campus!

Wow. Fickle.

Delisting Mclean?

I'm gonna keep repeating it because I like the sound of it - pick 4, Sylvia, pick 21 for Judd is a fair deal, not a bonanza for WC, but a fair sacrifice from the Demons.

But I would puke if we gave up one star to get another. Particularly when you consider that Judd's arrival would obviously take the first tagger, giving Mclean a little more space to get used to attention.

Future Captain???

Hahaha. A future trade or delisting pal.

He has shown nothing this year.

Jones is the new man on campus!

All this Judd talk has sure brought in some new idiots.

I would be very upset if Mclean ever captains the Demons.

Really don't rate him, the worst awareness ive seen on a talented player in a long time. Always always always gets caught, lets remember, Danihers last game in Essendon 50, caught for holding the ball like 4 times by Dale Thomas.

Also he has got in TWO punch ups in the past few weeks. He is no captain and is no star of the club, I really rated him in his first years but this year, no matter how "unfit" was deplorable.

Jones, Rivers are the only untouchables. I would keep Sylvia over Mclean anyday.

All being said, happy for him to stay because I know the talent is there, but captain, my god I would be [censored].

Jones, Rivers are the only untouchables.

There is no such thing as 'untouchables'.

The sooner people realize this the better.

I'd prefer Sylvia over McLean also Demons 32.

Don't rate people who fight amongst their playing group.

. Always always always gets caught, lets remember, Danihers last game in Essendon 50, caught for holding the ball like 4 times by Dale Thomas.

Dale Thomas eh????

Didn't know he played for Essendon.

Gee, this is going to be a stellar trade week. Bring it on!

A footy loving mate of mine made the remark once that trade week is the second best week in footy, second only to GF week. I agree!

Dale Thomas eh????

Didn't know he played for Essendon.

You knew what he meant..!

Dale Thomas eh????

Didn't know he played for Essendon.

They were two different examples. The Essendon game where he got caught in their 50 (COMMA) Got caught by Dale Thomas like 4 times (this was in Neitas 300th)

Comma, full stop usually means something new or adding something.... In this case, adding.

Jones, Rivers are the only untouchables. I would keep Sylvia over Mclean anyday.

Can you explain this to me? What has Sylvia shown us so far? Has he had a BOG yet? I know Brock's had a few including a final.

I am sick of the excuses for Sylvia about not having done a full preseason and injuries. I would be happy for him to move on now while he still has value, instead of us all writing in 5 years time "Oh, he would have been a gun if he could have got his body right". He may turn out to be great elsewhere, but they may be because he was given a wake-up call.

JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD JUDD

It must be school holidays, all the bored, immature [censored] are out. Get a life all of you!!

Can you explain this to me? What has Sylvia shown us so far? Has he had a BOG yet? I know Brock's had a few including a final.

I am sick of the excuses for Sylvia about not having done a full preseason and injuries. I would be happy for him to move on now while he still has value, instead of us all writing in 5 years time "Oh, he would have been a gun if he could have got his body right". He may turn out to be great elsewhere, but they may be because he was given a wake-up call.

i think sylvia is good and tough but could be good trade bate...always shows glimpses of potential like against the bulldogs when he kicked the goal to put us infront.....yet we still lost (i'm talking about the 1st time we played them)

i think sylvia is good and tough but could be good trade bate...always shows glimpses of potential like against the bulldogs when he kicked the goal to put us infront.....yet we still lost (i'm talking about the 1st time we played them)

That that match against the dogs showed us exactly what Col can do. He was probably best-a-field that day, maybe except for Davey. He had 20 odd disposals, took 12 marks or so marks and kicked 3 goals. i Wouldnt trade him.