I would just like to congratulate Collingwood on thier Victory Friday night. They managed to beat a team that's 14th on the ladder, and had 1 player on the bench and two out there playing on 1 leg each. And they managed to win by a whopping 11 points!

Call this sour grape if you want, but Collingwood are the biggest bunch of finals pretenders and they will be slaughtered in the first week of the finals. That will be the highlight of a time that we, sadly, won't be a part of.

Agreed well said.

they better not get a draw like they did this year, in 2008 what a joke

I would just like to congratulate Collingwood on thier Victory Friday night. They managed to beat a team that's 14th on the ladder, and had 1 player on the bench and two out there playing on 1 leg each. And they managed to win by a whopping 11 points!

Call this sour grape if you want, but Collingwood are the biggest bunch of finals pretenders and they will be slaughtered in the first week of the finals. That will be the highlight of a time that we, sadly, won't be a part of.

if they even make it

they better not get a draw like they did this year, in 2008 what a joke

if they do there will be protests all round, it just couldn't happen......could it?????

if they do there will be protests all round, it just couldn't happen......could it?????

It will the FILTH are the afl's way of getting FILTH into the ground to make dollars. :angry:

if they do there will be protests all round, it just couldn't happen......could it?????

of course they will.. its not an even playing field.. The AFL pander to the whims of those with clout.. So whats new.

What...you think the Wobllie's fixture is luck of the draw !!!!

Come on guys, all we needed to do was break even in the first half and we would have won easily. Forget injuries, we had none in the first 20 minutes and were 5 goals down.

Once again we are found wanting when the game is at its most intense – lets not waste time on demeaning Collingwood or their easy run this year– we have our own issues.

Come on guys, all we needed to do was break even in the first half and we would have won easily. Forget injuries, we had none in the first 20 minutes and were 5 goals down.

Once again we are found wanting when the game is at its most intense – lets not waste time on demeaning Collingwood or their easy run this year– we have our own issues.

Well said Waltham33 ....

We had no major injuries in the 1st quarter, we were destroyed , we did lift after Bell was taken out,

our kick ins and decision making was bad. To many turnovers,

Leave the PIES alone they did what they had to do.

PS I hope they dont make it, or get shot down the 1st week.

Come on guys, all we needed to do was break even in the first half and we would have won easily. Forget injuries, we had none in the first 20 minutes and were 5 goals down.

Once again we are found wanting when the game is at its most intense – lets not waste time on demeaning Collingwood or their easy run this year– we have our own issues.

Believe me, i agree with you and that's the most annoying thing about the loss. But annalysing Collinwoods performance, they allowed a side who is down on confidence, down on man power, and had nothing left in the tank back into the game. If they were serious finals players, then they should been able to thump us by at least 50+ points (of course i'm glad they didn't).

Two weeks ago they beat Carlton by 10 points, last week they loss to the Tigers, and this week they beat us by 11 points when we had basically no bench. They've got a pretty good crop of young players, but i always knew that they would fall over towards the end of the season and i will at least be able to smile when they are thumped out of the finals.

64 interchanges to 48 says it all....

The reason we lost is not thru innaccuracy, but from lack of fresh legs!!!

We've fielded a more inexperienced side than you throughout the year and made the finals..

We've fielded a more inexperienced side than you throughout the year and made the finals..

Seriously doubt that Old X. We must have played more. We have 7 players with less than 10 games this season. And another 5 with less than 30 games.

The best thing about Friday night was that a road-blockage in every street around the MCG before the game would have prevented a good portion of people attending the match, thus lowering their gate receipts.

64 interchanges to 48 says it all....

The reason we lost is not thru innaccuracy, but from lack of fresh legs!!!

The game was lost in the first ten minutes before the injuries were an issue.

whilst i understand your logic CB, and agree with the generality, i'd have to say if one of robbo's, neita's, or TJ's shots had have gone through at the end we probably would've won, not to mention if bode's travelled a bit farther we'd have still been a shot. meaning that fresh legs would have at least given us a slightly better chance.

whilst i understand your logic CB, and agree with the generality, i'd have to say if one of robbo's, neita's, or TJ's shots had have gone through at the end we probably would've won, not to mention if bode's travelled a bit farther we'd have still been a shot. meaning that fresh legs would have at least given us a slightly better chance.

Of course it would have helped.

However, you can't use injuries as an excuse when really the team played so badly before injuries were a problem. Melbourne had a chance when they had a full team but did not capitalise.

definitely.

i think it's the only reason people aren't asking for our second coach of the season to be sacked, because of the way we faught the match out.

a new coach can hopefully get that attitude right because a top team does not give teams 41 point head starts, especially when we're clearly good enough to be ahead.

We've fielded a more inexperienced side than you throughout the year and made the finals..

There are only two players i believe on our list that haven't been used this year, and one of them has been injured for 50% of it. And if you'd actually read my post you'd notice that i see you've had a young team all year, however i doubt you've had anywhere near the injury problems we've had to endure.

Can i ask you, were you happy with that performance? Do you feel confident going into this finals campaign? Or are looking also looking forward to another embarrassing early exit to this years finals?

You won, well done, but you guys have been given the luxury of a kind draw and a good injury run (yes i know you've been without Buckley, but you'd better get used to it), hence you guys are probably going to be slaughtered by a team that is good enough to be there, and i will enjoy watching it.

I'm sorry if this comes off as being a bad sport, but i suppose my dislike of the Pies gets my hand typing!

The game was lost in the first ten minutes before the injuries were an issue.

Couldn't agree more, we handed the game to them and it was a disgusting first half effort.

You won, well done, but you guys have been given the luxury of a kind draw and a good injury run (yes i know you've been without Buckley, but you'd better get used to it), hence you guys are probably going to be slaughtered by a team that is good enough to be there, and i will enjoy watching it.

Well said pates agree with the above.

We've fielded a more inexperienced side than you throughout the year and made the finals..

Incorrect. Collingwood's "inexperience" has just received more hype. That's all.

There are only two players i believe on our list that haven't been used this year, and one of them has been injured for 50% of it. And if you'd actually read my post you'd notice that i see you've had a young team all year, however i doubt you've had anywhere near the injury problems we've had to endure.

Our captain hasn't played a game this YR.

Our best player in James Clement, missed from RD 5 to last week.

Holland, who is in our best 22, missed 6 games at the start of the YR and has been ruled out for the rest of the YR.

Rusling hadn't played until Friday nite, Egan has been ruled out for the rest of the YR.

Regardless, you may have had more injuries, but you have played a more experienced squad than Collingwood this year.

Can i ask you, were you happy with that performance? Do you feel confident going into this finals campaign? Or are looking also looking forward to another embarrassing early exit to this years finals?

We played OK in the 1st half. Our 2nd half was pitiful.

I'll tell you in 2 weeks if I'm confident about the finals series.

You won, well done, but you guys have been given the luxury of a kind draw and a good injury run (yes i know you've been without Buckley

Kind draw is a cop out. We've won 3 of 4 games interstate this YR.

As for a good injury run, laughable. No club has been forced to play as many kids as us this YR.

We'll play finals, Pendlebury is close to the best player of the 05 draft, Heath Shaw who is 21 will be an AA player, Travis Cloke is the 2nd best young KPP in the AFL and Dale Thomas is showing huge signs. It's only going to get better for Collingwood in the next few seasons.

Our captain hasn't played a game this YR.

Our best player in James Clement, missed from RD 5 to last week.

Holland, who is in our best 22, missed 6 games at the start of the YR and has been ruled out for the rest of the YR.

Rusling hadn't played until Friday nite, Egan has been ruled out for the rest of the YR.

Regardless, you may have had more injuries, but you have played a more experienced squad than Collingwood this year.

Kind draw is a cop out. We've won 3 of 4 games interstate this YR.

As for a good injury run, laughable. No club has been forced to play as many kids as us this YR.

We'll play finals, Pendlebury is close to the best player of the 05 draft, Heath Shaw who is 21 will be an AA player, Travis Cloke is the 2nd best young KPP in the AFL and Dale Thomas is showing huge signs. It's only going to get better for Collingwood in the next few seasons.

That Nathan Buckley being injured makes a news headline every week doesn't actually mean you've had 22 injuries to star players.

And Pendlebury was close to the best player of the 05 draft several times on friday night, for sure, because Nathan Jones was playing.

As for experience and playing kids -

PLAYER - AGE - GAMES PLAYED PRIOR TO 2007

Bate, 20 years old, 14 games. (and injured)

Bell, 22 years, 28 games (injured)

Buckley, 20 years, 0 games.

Dunn, 20 years, 11 games.

Frawley, 19 years, 0 games (injured) (drafted for this season)

Garland, 19 years, 0 games (injured) (drafted for this season)

C. Johnson, 21 years, 13 games.

Jones, 19 years, 8 games.

Mclean, 21 years, 29 games. (injured)

Newton, 20 years, 0 games.

Petterd, 19 years, 0 games. (injured)

Sylvia, 22 years, 36 games. (injured)

Bode, 19 years, 0 games.

And lets not forget Bartram, 19 years, 22 games in just his first season on the list, third in the Rising Star despite playing largely as a tagger, and injured for essentially the duration of this season.

I guess what I'm saying is that of the 14 players who are both under 22 and under 50 games at the start of this year, including six debut players, more than half have been injured for multiple rounds.

Our team looks older than we'd like it to because we've had no choice but to play veteran 'depth' players such as Ward, Brown, Bizzell and Holland.

Meanwhile, you want to make a point of Buckley, Clement and Holland as major injuries?

Robertson, Johnstone, Rivers, Yze, Neitz and Bruce have all missed at least 5 games this season, in addition to the above injuries. Davey will pass that line from here, because of the hamstring injury.

And as a final cap, only two (thats one plus one if you have trouble with the maths) players have played every game this year for the Demons - White and McDonald.

We have been playing the kids, we have had an unbelievably bad run with injuries, including to those kids, and Collingwood do have a soft as bum-fluff draw and are trying very hard to look like they've been hard done by when they've actually had a pretty nice run of, well, everything. For about five years.

That's the facts, deal with it.

That Nathan Buckley being injured makes a news headline every week doesn't actually mean you've had 22 injuries to star players.

I classify our star players as Didak, Clement & Buckley.

Didak missed 6 weeks.

Clement missed 12 weeks.

Buckley hasn't played this year.

And Pendlebury was close to the best player of the 05 draft several times on friday night, for sure, because Nathan Jones was playing.

If only Jones could kick he would be a half decent player.

Our team looks older than we'd like it to because we've had no choice but to play veteran 'depth' players such as Ward, Brown, Bizzell and Holland.

Regardless, you've got the experience there, we haven't.

When we got injuries, we were forced to play youngsters.

Cox, Cook, Clarke, Goldsack, Dick, Reid, Stanley, Toovey & Nicholls all hadn't played a game before this YR.

Meanwhile, you want to make a point of Buckley, Clement and Holland as major injuries?

Didak also missed 6 games coming off an AA season.

Prestigicamo, our key defender has also missed 6 games.

I haven't mentioned Egan, who has only played 2 games this YR & Rusling, who both are in our best 22.

Robertson, Johnstone, Rivers, Yze, Neitz and Bruce have all missed at least 5 games this season

Yze was dropped wasn't he? How can you classify someone who was battling to get a game as a key injury?

You can't complain about a soft draw if your own club sells home games.

Wow The old Xavierian is back.

Funny we haven't heard from him since he shot his mouth off before last years QB clash.

They win and he's here again.

This chump is about as weak and gutless as that filthy dog Johnson