In their peak years (2020 to 2023)Trac and Clayton dominated Brownlow voting but ruined each others chances of ever winning the Brownlow.

In three Brownlow results they attained these figures.

Oliver 70 votes

Petracca 67 votes

Imagine how many votes each one would have scored if they were playing in different teams.

Sadly, they are most likely to leave us, one by choice and the other by force. Shame.

Interestingly, St Kilda's Jack Steele with 59 votes in 3 years has also been given his marching orders.

As Ned Kelly said in his dying breath, "Such is Life".

Pretty sure it was Ben Cousins' gut that said that quote.

A travesty Clazz didn't win in 2021...best player in the game that year

Clarry and Trac never won a brownlow because they played in a team containing Clarry, Trac, Gawn, Viney and others.

it's the curse good teams sometimes live with.

I have no doubt in my mind at all Clarry was the best player in the comp multiple seasons and so was Gawn.

Umm most of the time the Brownlow is won by a player with superstars in his team and often such teams bank a lot of wins helping the player get a few more votes. We just saw Rowell win despite Anderson stealing votes. On top of that if Anderson missed most of the year and Gold Coast win 4 less games he might have lost 7 votes and gained 7 his teammate 'stole'.

Honestly if Trac had been more accurate a game here or there with 2 more shots from 40 going through in a year where he came second 3 extra votes get him on the podium.

Joel Smith was sacked. Period!

Voss, Black and Akermanis would like a quiet word.

Judd and Cousins. Now there's a brutal analogy for Petracca and Oliver.

Bartel and Ablett Jr.

Anyway, in any given season there's at least half a dozen players clearly on par with the Brownlow winner who don't win it. It's nice to have but not a big deal to not have.

See also Bontempelli.

On 07/10/2025 at 04:46, Go Ds said:

Umm most of the time the Brownlow is won by a player with superstars in his team and often such teams bank a lot of wins helping the player get a few more votes. We just saw Rowell win despite Anderson stealing votes. On top of that if Anderson missed most of the year and Gold Coast win 4 less games he might have lost 7 votes and gained 7 his teammate 'stole'.

Honestly if Trac had been more accurate a game here or there with 2 more shots from 40 going through in a year where he came second 3 extra votes get him on the podium.

I'll suggest that both justice and poetry demand that Oliver and Bontempelli share the 2021 Brownlow. Wines' win is not quite as egregious as Tom Mitchell's, but geebus, that was a season that favoured either-or between the dour and the loose.

Anyway, just to confirm how much that little imperfection in Petracca's game cost him (and us)

Petracca 2023

Rnd 10 v Port. 1 goal 2 behinds. If that is 2.1 we win the game and presumably instead of one vote Trac goes ahead of at least one of Butters and Rozee.

Rnd 16 v Giants. Kicked 0.4. Still got two votes, but if one of those shots goes through we win the game, he gets three votes.

Rnd 22 v Carlton. Kicked 2.2. If one of his gettable misses goes through we win the game, he gets votes and our late season momentum changes. (Side note, does the touched shot count as his behind or as rushed?)

Three strait kicks and that's a Brownlow.

On 06/10/2025 at 19:42, adonski said:

A travesty Clazz didn't win in 2021...best player in the game that year

Not really. I'm shocked Cripps didn't win it with the Naicos brothers finishing equal second and Greg Williams third.

21 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Petracca 2023

Rnd 22 v Carlton. Kicked 2.2. If one of his gettable misses goes through we win the game, he gets votes and our late season momentum changes. (Side note, does the touched shot count as his behind or as rushed?)

The game where he did kick the winning goal but it was wrongly deemed to have been touched?

2 minutes ago, Tim said:

The game where he did kick the winning goal but it was wrongly deemed to have been touched?

Carlton players even admitted it wasn't touched.

That was one of the biggest 'sliding door' moments of all time!

Had the goal stood, we would have been 2nd on the ladder, not played Coll in first final and Gus would still be playing.

Most likely we win the first final, straight to PF etc.

For all sorts of reasons it was the Premiership that slipped through our fingers.

21 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

I'll suggest that both justice and poetry demand that Oliver and Bontempelli share the 2021 Brownlow. Wines' win is not quite as egregious as Tom Mitchell's, but geebus, that was a season that favoured either-or between the dour and the loose.

Anyway, just to confirm how much that little imperfection in Petracca's game cost him (and us)

Petracca 2023

Rnd 10 v Port. 1 goal 2 behinds. If that is 2.1 we win the game and presumably instead of one vote Trac goes ahead of at least one of Butters and Rozee.

Rnd 16 v Giants. Kicked 0.4. Still got two votes, but if one of those shots goes through we win the game, he gets three votes.

Rnd 22 v Carlton. Kicked 2.2. If one of his gettable misses goes through we win the game, he gets votes and our late season momentum changes. (Side note, does the touched shot count as his behind or as rushed?)

Three strait kicks and that's a Brownlow.

A bit unfair to highlight one player's missed shots across a whole season.

Reckon you could find a heap more costly misses for many many players, maybe even Clarry!

4 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

A bit unfair to highlight one player's missed shots across a whole season.

Reckon you could find a heap more costly misses for many many players, maybe even Clarry!

No doubt, but this is just to highlight how fickle the Brownlow can be and how fine the lines are.

Petracca has the 'hot girl low self esteem problem' where he was so close to perfect that everyone began commenting on the remaining flaws. As far as missing a Brownlow, three straight kicks (or two straight kicks and one correctly adjudicated straight kick) and it was his in 2023.

2 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

No doubt, but this is just to highlight how fickle the Brownlow can be and how fine the lines are.

Petracca has the 'hot girl low self esteem problem' where he was so close to perfect that everyone began commenting on the remaining flaws. As far as missing a Brownlow, three straight kicks (or two straight kicks and one correctly adjudicated straight kick) and it was his in 2023.

Thanks for that.

I probably over reacted. Sorry.

As an aside,

I'm a bit over posters unceremoniously highlighting his 'flaws' and ignoring all the elite things and sometimes make up stuff. It seems many posters just want to tear him down which is unfair to a club champion.

36 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Thanks for that.

I probably over reacted. Sorry.

As an aside,

I'm a bit over posters unceremoniously highlighting his 'flaws' and ignoring all the elite things and sometimes make up stuff. It seems many posters just want to tear him down which is unfair to a club champion.

My favourite stat people use for that is 'clangers'. A stat dominated by the likes of Patrick Dangerfield, Dustin Martin, Errol Gulden, Patrick Cripps and, yep, Petracca.

For as long as I've known football it has been the marker of the gun player given responsibility to make things happen in difficult situations.