1 minute ago, Standard Deviation said:

He lied to a respected member of this forum, and dragged this out to join a team where he has less opportunities. I hope he ends up trundling round the WAFL over there.

Please.

My comment has nothing to do with the poster on this forum, but this reaction from people, that he somehow is under obligation to inform someone of his contractual status and intention is puerile.

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

I’m assuming west coast have the first pre season draft pick so potentially that’s some leverage If Freo are annoying about the trade? I’m sure they’d pick him

I know McQualter is a fan so undoubtedly the Eagles would be keen on him.

Even pick 11 in this compromised draft is not a trade I’m salivating over. So if Freo offer a second rounder I’m playing hard ball and telling Judd we will walk him to the draft.

I would however trade everything we get for Trac plus McVee plus future picks to get Jackson back. A girl can dream! 😂

42 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

What on earth are you talking about? Twomey’s probably the most reliable journalist in the business.

Just let me float down de Nile for a day ok

If the club is serious he will end up at West Coast. Im all in for players exercising their rights, but the club should exercise theirs. Pick 29 (if we get that!) drifting to late 30s in a weak draft is as good as useless.

What's more valuable is to make a statement that you're welcome to faff around with contracts and demands but its a double edge sword.

WCE, you can have him for year's pick 19 Or your future 2nd round. I see no reason why to help facilitate a trade to get him to freo. The club has paid him his dues. Wce would be mad not to accept that.

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I know McQualter is a fan so undoubtedly the Eagles would be keen on him.

Even pick 11 in this compromised draft is not a trade I’m salivating over. So if Freo offer a second rounder I’m playing hard ball and telling Judd we will walk him to the draft.

I would however trade everything we get for Trac plus McVee plus future picks to get Jackson back. A girl can dream! 😂

That pick 11 will probably end up being 16 ish anyways which I’d say feels not too far off the mark. But agreed it’s not exactly exciting .

I hope we’d at least call up doggas management with a monster long term offer.

4 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

If the club is serious he will end up at West Coast. Im all in for players exercising their rights, but the club should exercise theirs. Pick 29 (if we get that!) drifting to late 30s in a weak draft is as good as useless.

What's more valuable is to make a statement that you're welcome to faff around with contracts and demands but its a double edge sword.

WCE, you can have him for year's pick 19 Or your future 2nd round. I see no reason why to help facilitate a trade to get him to freo. The club has paid him his dues. Wce would be mad not to accept that.

I’m all for scorched earth, but does it really send a message? I mean will WCE take him?

16 minutes ago, 48 Year Now said:

You were there and heard the private conversation were you?

She’s a better storyteller than JK Rowling

Let’s see if the club can turn this into a positive result..we definitely need to trade someone with currency to fill a need being a forward or another midfielder and it looks like Judd is it..let’s see what the FD are made of here..

4 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

I’m all for scorched earth, but does it really send a message? I mean will WCE take him?

Will WCE take a proven kid for free in a PSD that is sure to be totally weak given the National Draft is meant to be shallow and compromised, given their lack of talent and McQualter’s intimate knowledge of Judd?

Yeah I reckon that’s a safe bet 😂

Just now, Jaded No More said:

Will WCE take a proven kid for free in a PSD that is sure to be totally weak given the National Draft is meant to be shallow and compromised, given their lack of talent and McQualter’s intimate knowledge of Judd?

Yeah I reckon that’s a safe bet 😂

Haha this is pretty obvious hey. I’d love to try and trade with wce. Esp if he wants to go “home”.

We need to grow some balls with this stuff

1 minute ago, Harves said:

Haha this is pretty obvious hey. I’d love to try and trade with wce. Esp if he wants to go “home”.

We need to grow some balls with this stuff

I think this is genuinely one where maybe sending him through the PSD gains us more then just accepting a nothing pick for a good young player

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

I think this is genuinely one where maybe sending him through the PSD gains us more then just accepting a nothing pick for a good young player

Me too. We got him for nothing and he has played some good footy for us so I’m happy to do what’s right for the club. I think west coast will try and trade with us anyway

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

I think this is genuinely one where maybe sending him through the PSD gains us more then just accepting a nothing pick for a good young player

100%. With WC holding pick 1 in the PSD, that gives us that little bit of leverage. The draft pool being what it is, we lose little by holding the line on our trade demands for McVee.

2 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

100%. With WC holding pick 1 in the PSD, that gives us that little bit of leverage. The draft pool being what it is, we lose little by holding the line on our trade demands for McVee.

Yep. First round pick or he goes into the draft. The message to the comp that we are prepared to PSD players I think could be more valuable than a pick 35 in a weak draft

36 minutes ago, Standard Deviation said:

He lied to a respected member of this forum

Get a grip

4 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Yep. First round pick or he goes into the draft. The message to the comp that we are prepared to PSD players I think could be more valuable than a pick 35 in a weak draft

PSD? Mind explaining for a pleb like me?

1 minute ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

PSD? Mind explaining for a pleb like me?

If an out of contract player requests a trade and the two teams can’t negotiate a trade the player can nominate for the drafts, west coast hold pick 1 and would be a really strong chance to take Judd Mcvee

Is there any realistic player we can acquire from them as part of a deal?

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

If an out of contract player requests a trade and the two teams can’t negotiate a trade the player can nominate for the drafts, west coast hold pick 1 and would be a really strong chance to take Judd Mcvee

So if that happens. Then what?

He becomes part of the rookie players somewhere and they can pick him that way?

What’s in that for us then?

Just now, GawnOfTheDead said:

So if that happens. Then what?

He becomes part of the rookie players somewhere and they can pick him that way?

What’s in that for us then?

Essentially why I bring it up is this

If Fremantle low ball us, we can threaten to send him through the pre season draft where he potentially ends up at west coast. This gives us some leverage in a situation where we otherwise have none. If we don’t get a decent offer I’d just send him to the draft to essentially send a message we won’t be walked all over

Let’s be honest everyone - a poor man’s Jake Bowey anyway

1 minute ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

What’s in that for us then?

Not bending over backwards for a poor return in a poor draft, not giving Freo yet another quality player for under market value, and showing our players that we won’t let them run the show whenever they please.

If pick 11 (which will be like pick 18) is on offer then fine take it and say bye amicably. If Freo try to lowball us I’m playing hard ball and telling them we are fine to send Judd to the PSD to fight it out.

Generally I’m a big advocate for playing nice with these trade scenarios, as you gain more by being easy to deal with than being a nightmare like Essendon. However there comes a point where you need to draw a line in the sand. Freo have continually come for our players and tried lowballing us in trades. They can frankly eat dirt at this point.

52 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The whole thing stinks

Even if it’s true that he and Lily separated, it doesn’t explain waiting for 12 odd months to sign a contract you were given and had amended multiple times.

Lots of excuses re: role, waiting for a new coach, but IMO Freo and his WA manager were in his ear all year and finally got what they wanted.

And if anyone says “home sick” I’ll remind you Judd is not from Perth, and WA has two teams.

Funny how he isn’t requesting a trade to the wooden spooners isn’t it?

Maybe Freo wants him

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Not bending over backwards for a poor return in a poor draft, not giving Freo yet another quality player for under market value, and showing our players that we won’t let them run the show whenever they please.

If pick 11 (which will be like pick 18) is on offer then fine take it and say bye amicably. If Freo try to lowball us I’m playing hard ball and telling them we are fine to send Judd to the PSD to fight it out.

Generally I’m a big advocate for playing nice with these trade scenarios, as you gain more by being easy to deal with than being a nightmare like Essendon. However there comes a point where you need to draw a line in the sand. Freo have continually come for our players and tried lowballing us in trades. They can frankly eat dirt at this point.

Pick 29 into 36 or whatever the [censored] it is is nothing anyway, so PSD it is. I'd actually be disappointed if we don't do it honestly. Fate is just about obliging us to make a stand here..

8 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Essentially why I bring it up is this

If Fremantle low ball us, we can threaten to send him through the pre season draft where he potentially ends up at west coast. This gives us some leverage in a situation where we otherwise have none. If we don’t get a decent offer I’d just send him to the draft to essentially send a message we won’t be walked all over

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Not bending over backwards for a poor return in a poor draft, not giving Freo yet another quality player for under market value, and showing our players that we won’t let them run the show whenever they please.

If pick 11 (which will be like pick 18) is on offer then fine take it and say bye amicably. If Freo try to lowball us I’m playing hard ball and telling them we are fine to send Judd to the PSD to fight it out.

Generally I’m a big advocate for playing nice with these trade scenarios, as you gain more by being easy to deal with than being a nightmare like Essendon. However there comes a point where you need to draw a line in the sand. Freo have continually come for our players and tried lowballing us in trades. They can frankly eat dirt at this point.

Thanks for both explaining, very complex the whole trade and draft system.

When you say 11 is like pick 18, what’s that meaning?

I see what you mean though Ted, hard ball is better. Hopefully pans out.