The Ollie Hannaford Thread

[adonski 12,092]

We were keen on the Wizard last year, while not as highly touted, could Hannaford's speed, aggression and X-factor be an option for the presumed Nibbler compensation (pick 25...?)

 

[Adam The God 30,231]

I'd love 4 or 5 picks in the top 40 this year.

Guys like Jack Whitlock who may slide or his brother.

Hannaford to add to Kozzy, Spargo and Chandler.

Lalor or Langford to Oliver, Viney and Petracca. Hynes too.

[adonski 12,092]

2 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I'd love 4 or 5 picks in the top 40 this year.

Guys like Jack Whitlock who may slide or his brother.

Hannaford to add to Kozzy, Spargo and Chandler.

Lalor or Langford to Oliver, Viney and Petracca. Hynes too.

Travalgia catches the eye. Lots of options it seems, gonna be hard for them to resist trying to sacrifice next years future first to trade in I reckon

[2021 301]

1 hour ago, adonski said:

We were keen on the Wizard last year, while not as highly touted, could Hannaford's speed, aggression and X-factor be an option for the presumed Nibbler compensation (pick 25...?)

 

He does look a bit like The Wizard Lite

[Adam The God 30,231]

Looks like he could eventually go through the midfield to me.

[Lord Travis 10,729]

Rising quickly and might go late first round. He's got good intensity for a small forward and would pair nicely with Kozzie. Would love to land him alongside a gun mid at 5.

Small forwards can have such a big impact on both scoreboard and defensive pressure. Modern game style is all about speed and they're the role that capitalists on it the most. The last few finals series have shown good small forwards are probably the most influential position on the ground. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,449]

Sorry all. I’m not seeing the frenzy here for Ollie.  He looks okay but he’s not anywhere near Nick Watson.  I agree he can play some minutes in midfield and small forward.  Good energy.  Smart. I only watched the first half Rebels v Dragons and only noticed him 2-3 times to be honest.  See him as a later draft pick.  See how he goes versus Dragons this week and at State Combine listing.  

[Sir Windsor 219]

4 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Rising quickly and might go late first round. He's got good intensity for a small forward and would pair nicely with Kozzie. Would love to land him alongside a gun mid at 5.

Small forwards can have such a big impact on both scoreboard and defensive pressure. Modern game style is all about speed and they're the role that capitalists on it the most. The last few finals series have shown good small forwards are probably the most influential position on the ground. 

all forwards will capitalize on speedy ball movement. However undersized forward lines will capitalize the most as they prey on turnover and spread. Carlton's duo of Curnow and McKay show you what a functioning forward line could like at the Dees with our current contest and stoppage orientated game plan. 

So we either look for better quality KPF to compliment our current game style / philosophy or turnover half our list to prioritize faster ball movement with our existing forward line. I don't think there is an in-between here.

The Bulldogs present an interesting case study as they have a Hawthorn / Pies style ball movement, however lack any sort of small forward dominance with a Carlton forward line setup.

Port have a similarish style to the Dees but probably have more skillful half back line and good ball users in the middle in Rozze and Butters.

So a Waterman and Houston acquisition in trade season would on paper improve our list considerably.  

[Roost it far 8,263]

16 hours ago, Adam The God said:

I'd love 4 or 5 picks in the top 40 this year.

Guys like Jack Whitlock who may slide or his brother.

Hannaford to add to Kozzy, Spargo and Chandler.

Lalor or Langford to Oliver, Viney and Petracca. Hynes too.

Richmond have about 6 potentially in the top 25

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

I originally dismissed Hannaford thinking the goals were a bit flukey and his 2km time in the 7’s is a worry.

But watching more of him I just can’t get enough. I’d love him at pick 9.

Skills - beautiful penetrating kick and nails set shots from 50, functional left foot, handballs really well on both sides 

Physicality - he competes in the air, tackles to hurt and speeds up as he attacks the contest 

Speed - bursts from contests and lays run down tackles.

He smothers, he keeps his feet with really nice balance, he uses his hips.

Might take him a few preseasons but that’s why strength and conditioning coaches make the big bucks.

He went in to the midfield against 3 top 20 picks and beat them all at times.

 

[Adam The God 30,231]

26 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I originally dismissed Hannaford thinking the goals were a bit flukey and his 2km time in the 7’s is a worry.

But watching more of him I just can’t get enough. I’d love him at pick 9.

Skills - beautiful penetrating kick and nails set shots from 50, functional left foot, handballs really well on both sides 

Physicality - he competes in the air, tackles to hurt and speeds up as he attacks the contest 

Speed - bursts from contests and lays run down tackles.

He smothers, he keeps his feet with really nice balance, he uses his hips.

Might take him a few preseasons but that’s why strength and conditioning coaches make the big bucks.

He went in to the midfield against 3 top 20 picks and beat them all at times.

 

0.23, bombs long, should cartwheel.

0.48, does handstand instead of exploding from pack.

1.23, loses arm wrestle, arm detached, shouldn't have lost arm wrestle.

2.32, good handball.

3.45, school ends.

4.52, he's very small, should be taller.

All in all, I wouldn't be taking him.

(he's okay, would prefer Hynes)

Edited November 3 by Adam The God

[spirit of norm smith 16,449]

If we had a pick in the mid 20s then definitely Hannaford would be an option.  He’s good but others are better.  He’s not pick “9” worthy in my view.  

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

4 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

If we had a pick in the mid 20s then definitely Hannaford would be an option.  He’s good but others are better.  He’s not pick “9” worthy in my view.  

Why? Endurance is a big concern, but the talent stands out and from the moment he flipped forward he was dominating games then added an on ball element.

Guys with speed, skill and hardness just don’t come along all that often. 

[#11-TonyAnderson 774]

Pretty mixed highlights to me - very scrappy at times. Not elite from the package above for me.

[RedLegs23 932]

Looks to be the perfect genuine 2nd small forward to partner up with Kozz. Defs a hole we need to fill in our F50.

A bit of Watson. Bit of Papley.

Midfield scope too. What pick is he projected to be in & around? Haven’t heard about him, but looks good.

Edited November 4 by RedLegs23

[adonski 12,092]

Just now, RedLegs23 said:

Looks to be the perfect genuine 2nd small forward to partner up with Kozz. Defs a hole we need to fill in our F50.

A bit of Watson. Bit of Papley.

Midfield scope too. What pick is he projected to be in & around? Haven’t heard about him, but looks great.

Late 1st Round at a wild guess, keeping in mind there will be around 27 (?) First round picks this year post bids ect

[RedLegs23 932]

8 minutes ago, adonski said:

Late 1st Round at a wild guess, keeping in mind there will be around 27 (?) First round picks this year post bids ect

So a need to get hold of another pick. Reckon we’re a chance?

[adonski 12,092]

1 minute ago, RedLegs23 said:

So a need to get hold of another pick. Reckon we’re a chance?

Stoofed if I know

I'd suspect it's unlikely we'd split pick 9 but that's just my gut feel

[DeeSpencer 25,687]

26 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Looks to be the perfect genuine 2nd small forward to partner up with Kozz. Defs a hole we need to fill in our F50.

A bit of Watson. Bit of Papley.

Midfield scope too. What pick is he projected to be in & around? Haven’t heard about him, but looks good.

The age had him at 19 but I think as long as clubs tick off his endurance concerns it will be higher.

I suspect if the draft broke perfectly for us we’d target a mid and an attacking player (likely a forward of some sort). 

A trade back could be possible if it’s a small slide.

It would be a bold decision to turn down talls or another proven mid but I love the talent.