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2 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I believe Clayton definitely wants to stay, and I believe he will. It’s just that clubs realise that Dees want to change the way they play, and they’re just probing to see what the situation is with Clayton & CP.

Let’s be clear, there’s many, many more discussions had than there are trades done. 

If we are looking to change then it’s not the worst idea. I don’t think we can continue to play JV, Trac and Oliver in the same team. JV is the player you’d keep for leadership and standards. The other 2 can get you 4-5 round picks over the next 2 years and bloody good ones too. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I believe Clayton definitely wants to stay, and I believe he will. It’s just that clubs realise that Dees want to change the way they play, and they’re just probing to see what the situation is with Clayton & CP.

Let’s be clear, there’s many, many more discussions had than there are trades done. 

Clarry has put in a HUGE amount of work and has categorically bought into the club. His commitment to change, self-improvement and betterment is absolutely genuine. 
 

Clarry has had a huge amount of resources expended on him, which has been seen as a mutual commitment from both club and player alike. 
 

I can understand that players are regularly discussed, but I really hope this hasn’t (doesn’t) damage the relationship and trust that has improved tenfold, between Oliver and the club. 

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3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Don’t mean to go all Karen on everyone’s @ss but does this not qualify as an unsubstantiated rumour? Or that’s not a thing anymore 🤷‍♀️ 

I'm not sure of the exact wording, but I think an unsubstantiated trade rumours are different than an unsubstantiated rumour about personal health, illegal behviour, or other type of statement that could be considered libel.

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2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Don’t mean to go all Karen on everyone’s @ss but does this not qualify as an unsubstantiated rumour? Or that’s not a thing anymore 🤷‍♀️ 

To be fair Goodwindees has years of impeccable sources and a good track record. He’s not some random who signed up today to post trash. 
 

I think we are all just feeling trade fatigue at this point and it’s not even trade week yet 

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34 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Let me say very clearly that the Dees are not shopping Clayton, but they have been asked if 2 first rounders would get it done, and I believe it wasn’t totally shut down / dismissed. 
 

Talk about 50 cents each way🤣

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3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Don’t mean to go all Karen on everyone’s @ss but does this not qualify as an unsubstantiated rumour? Or that’s not a thing anymore 🤷‍♀️ 

I think the difference here is that the rumour is not potentially libellous.

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2 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Clarry has put in a HUGE amount of work and has categorically bought into the club. His commitment to change, self-improvement and betterment is absolutely genuine. 
 

Clarry has had a huge amount of resources expended on him, which has been seen as a mutual commitment from both club and player alike. 
 

I can understand that players are regularly discussed, but I really hope this hasn’t (doesn’t) damage the relationship and trust that has improved tenfold, between Oliver and the club. 

Quoting myself as it does seem this situation has legs. 

Might need to keep a watching brief on this situation…

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Just now, Jaded No More said:

To be fair Goodwindees has years of impeccable sources and a good track record. He’s not some random who signed up today to post trash. 
 

I think we are all just feeling trade fatigue at this point and it’s not even trade week yet 

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I get that. But an unsubstantiated rumour is an unsubstantiated rumour regardless of who posts it. No disrespect to Goodwindees but shouldn’t it be one rule across the board?

This only serves to exacerbate the trade fatigue that we’re all already experiencing. 

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9 minutes ago, deanox said:

I'm not sure of the exact wording, but I think an unsubstantiated trade rumours are different than an unsubstantiated rumour about personal health, illegal behviour, or other type of statement that could be considered libel.

Dagnabbit I shoulda read the fine print.

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1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I get that. But an unsubstantiated rumour is an unsubstantiated rumour regardless of who posts it. No disrespect to Goodwindees but shouldn’t it be one rule across the board?

This only serves to exacerbate the trade fatigue that we’re all already experiencing. 

Spot on WCW. It's just tedious an people wanting to big note their 'connections'. Boorish. 

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Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

I get that. But an unsubstantiated rumour is an unsubstantiated rumour regardless of who posts it. No disrespect to Goodwindees but shouldn’t it be one rule across the board?

This only serves to exacerbate the trade fatigue that we’re all already experiencing. 

Trade rumours won’t get this site into legal trouble, nor are they slanderous towards anyone so I guess it’s not necessary to have them verified before they get posted. 

In normal seasons, trade rumors keep this board spicy. But I understand why it’s not a fun read these days. 

 

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46 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Let me say very clearly that the Dees are not shopping Clayton, but they have been asked if 2 first rounders would get it done, and I believe it wasn’t totally shut down / dismissed. 
 

Am glad you clarified that the club is not shopping him around. Out of curiosity does this news come since the ALF announced future picks from 2 years out can be traded?

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Let's use our brains. To GET him a club would have to offer at least two low first-rounders and take over all his salary. Who is going to do that at this stage of his career? On the other hand, we have invested a great deal of effort into helping a player who has been one of the top 5 or so players EVER to play for Melbourne, and who is now totally committed to repaying the club for that. 
 

It won't happen. And if WCW is right and players read this garbage, that would be a terrible thing for his mental health and recovery.

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2 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

Am glad you clarified that the club is not shopping him around. Out of curiosity does this news come since the ALF announced future picks from 2 years out can be traded?

That doesn’t come into affect until next year. 

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1 minute ago, 640MD said:

Ok just when the Dee’s were off the media ****sheet.  Some assss whole wants to put us back.   Give me a break

Very well spoken.  Careful though. We wouldn't want to upset those who idolise 'well respected posters'. 

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3 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Let's use our brains. To GET him a club would have to offer at least two low first-rounders and take over all his salary. Who is going to do that at this stage of his career? On the other hand, we have invested a great deal of effort into helping a player who has been one of the top 5 or so players EVER to play for Melbourne, and who is now totally committed to repaying the club for that. 
 

It won't happen. And if WCW is right and players read this garbage, that would be a terrible thing for his mental health and recovery.

Let's hope players like Clarry don't read this drivel. Even if this were true not sure of the motivation of a 'supporter' who would post this at this time.

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