Injured Players

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34 minutes ago, deanox said:

This is really insightful, thanks!

I do think that it is hard to draw conclusions without some other data too, namely our opposition's performance in the same stat each week (so we can see if we are performing above/below trend).

Its also tough because high speed distance is subject (what's high speed? Do we do lots of work just below this number). But I think it's a great proxy!

It is just a proxy.  I think it equates more closely to total power output than anything else. High speed is >18km/hr.  Burgo confirmed that last year against GC we were off the charts for total output (20% higher than any other game) and this data supports that.

Sorry but I didn’t grab opponents numbers. It’s too time consuming, but you are probably right.  Wet conditions will result in less running for both teams.

 

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6 hours ago, BW511 said:

I don’t want to start a loading argument again, however if you can’t get the loading in, fitness will drop off.

Perhaps we went with the loading mid season and then when we went to have a second go at it we could not get enough work into the players due to injuries, hence the drop off in fitness/running power

Either this or I am of the belief that we over trained ie. overdid it with the loading this year.

It may have partly been because we pushed clearly injured players through the same program rather than not doing it. This can cause chronic fitness problems for multiple months after you mess it up. We should be a different team next year in terms of running ability.

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"We were a little bit banged up at the end of the year."

Simon Goodwin

(He also reinforced what Gawn said, that it felt like two continuous years, that the players didn't get much of a break last year.)

 

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On 9/24/2022 at 5:40 PM, Monbon said:

Hindsight, JNM. We wouldn't have finished second had we not won three crucial games: Geelong had the benefit of games up their sleeve, plus many games at Geelong. They also had a dream run with injuries. When injuries hit us like a tempest, life ain't ever going to be easy for selectors or game plan strategists.

The question isnt about injuries really , it’s more  about injury management. Hindsight is easy I agree but we did make a lot of mistakes in this regard in 22. Let’s hope they reset their approach in 23. 

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15 hours ago, Watson11 said:

I posted the GPS numbers on another thread.  They are posted here for your convenience. The graph has high speed distance in km per game.,  We did not drop off at all in 2021 (in fact improved slightly).  But this year was not good.

Thanks for that. Last year was a strange one, would be more interested in comparing other top 8 teams this year. Also, different grounds likely result in different high speed outcomes, dry decks in qld and wa might also result in different outcomes. Round19 last year looks like an error/outlier also. Still very interesting, but to make conclusions from it it need a greater deep dive

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On 9/24/2022 at 10:03 PM, rpfc said:

I don’t disagree but we risked Salem, Lever, Gawn, Brown and Jackson (at least) in games when they could have had longer lay offs during the middle of the year that may (emphasis on may) have meant a better September. Gawn had syndesmosis and was back in 2 weeks for example. We were losing anyway…

These are but lessons for our future. 

@Rhino Richardshave at it, RR. 

A facepalm only days so much…