On 27/07/2020 at 00:29, Forest Demon said:

Umpiring and the rules are a complete mess.

We have a rag tag bunch of semi professional umpires being asked to officiate based on rules that are massively open to interpretation. And on top of that, they are obviously being asked by the AFL to change those interpretations week to week in response to things like Clarko’s comments.

Bevo was right all along when Clarko made those comments..

  On 26/07/2020 at 08:03, Mazer Rackham said:

In the latest version of the rules I can find (2019), there is no mention of anything to do with this.

Closest is this:

17.5.2  Free Kicks - Marking Contests
A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick in a Marking contest against a Player  
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(c)  unduly pushes or bumps an opposition Player;

......

Just on one point, what does unduly mean?

Now I know what it means but how does that apply to football?

If I am strong and bump or push you away from the drop zone in order to take a mark is that unduly pushing or bumping? Or am I simply using my strength advantage? We want forwards crashing packs, but can they really?

It is a farce.

And don't get me started on last nights match umpiring, FMD - give it back now, not quick enough!!!

  On 26/07/2020 at 23:13, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What does "unduly pushes or bumps an opposition player" - and in particular the word "unduly" - mean? It can't mean either Prohibited Contact (which I assume is a defined term elsewhere likely to include high contact and arm chopping) or engaging in Rough Conduct (which I assume is also a defined expression) as both those forms of contact are addressed in (e) and (f).

 

  On 27/07/2020 at 00:40, ManDee said:

Just on one point, what does unduly mean?

 

Like many things in the rules of the game, "unduly" is not defined. The rules are a dogs breakfast. Poorly written and full of clauses describing circumstances that are commonly understood by fans, but in fact are near jibberish.

(Prohibited Contact and Rough Conduct are defined and mean pretty much what you would intuitively guess.)

Edited July 27, 20204 yr by Mazer Rackham

Kossi needs a spell in the seconds & a rocket from Goodwin, stop flying for speccys & give the handball when there’s a teammate in the goal square 

Love his forward pressure but you’ve got to get the ball also, it’s pretty important 

And l know there’s no seconds atm haha

Hopefully the no-stat highlights change and become actual highlights!

Kossie is flashy, but he needs to starts contributing if he wants to retain his place in the team. He was the same at underage level, looked flashy and exciting, but ultimately contributed little. Forward coach needs to tell him to stop flying for marks and get front and centre for the crumb. He missed 3-4 goal opportunities last night because he made poor decisions. The skillset is there, now we need to give him a footy IQ lesson. 

 

  On 27/07/2020 at 00:29, Forest Demon said:

Umpiring and the rules are a complete mess.

We have a rag tag bunch of semi professional umpires being asked to officiate based on rules that are massively open to interpretation. And on top of that, they are obviously being asked by the AFL to change those interpretations week to week in response to things like Clarko’s comments.

Could not agree more.

  On 27/07/2020 at 01:37, Billy said:

Kossi needs a spell in the seconds & a rocket from Goodwin, stop flying for speccys & give the handball when there’s a teammate in the goal square 

 

Burning Hannan was a really bad mistake. A mistake he compounded by missing a soda with his shot (by a fair margin it must be said).

An absolute gimme goal if he handballs (even a poor one) as there was not Lions player in coee of Hannan.

A strange decision as he surely he saw him and so far in his (very) shorter career has often looked to give it off as the first option. So much so that a few times i've thought just take the shot yourself Kossie.

A rush of blood, which happens for young players, but it was terrible timing as we had finally got back into the match and were starting to swarm them. And simply couldn't take advantage of that pressure. 

Edited July 27, 20204 yr by binman