37 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

If he was white I'm not sure anyone would mention him as having speed or pace. Falling for the stereotype on that one.

Also, you said:

"This is also a seriously quick Geelong line up. Probably quicker they even need because they'll look to introduce Rivers, Christensen, Enright and maybe a couple of others in for finals who aren't in the side but it's important to have the speed and run to keep up."

 

29 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Also, you said:

"This is also a seriously quick Geelong line up. Probably quicker they even need because they'll look to introduce Rivers, Christensen, Enright and maybe a couple of others in for finals who aren't in the side but it's important to have the speed and run to keep up."

 

Christensen was out of that line up and the team the Cats had named with Varcoe, Hunt, Smedts, Murdoch was super fast. I was saying their best 22 with Rivers, Christensen and Enright would actually be slower.

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

This isn't a serious statement surely? I simply said he "has good speed", and you're trying to infer that he's in fact slow and I've racially stereotyped him, rather than actually seen him play. What an utterly ridiculous and offensive comment. You're more than welcome to email BOTH the clubs he played for and accuse them of racism if you wish too (see below).

"Allen Christensen is a fleet-footed midfielder with the ability to push forward and hit the scoreboard."

Source

"Another of the Cats’ band of fleet-footed midfielders"

Source

"His speed and skill will only add sizzle to Brisbane’s midfield."

Source

"Allen Christensen and Steven Motlop have injected speed and skill"

Source

 

 

In 2009 when drafted he was a fleet-footed midfielder, and it looks like the Lions have just copied and pasted from his Geelong profile when he went up there in 2015. You can make an argument in 2015 as a midfielder he probably did have a good amount of speed, but for 2019 as a forward then yeah he doesn't have good speed. He can rarely get away from a defender.

I'm not saying you're racist, just my opinion about how easy stereotypes and comparisons are made when evaluating players.

18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Christensen was out of that line up and the team the Cats had named with Varcoe, Hunt, Smedts, Murdoch was super fast. I was saying their best 22 with Rivers, Christensen and Enright would actually be slower.

Fair enough. Can see how you meant that now reading it with that context.

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

In 2009 when drafted he was a fleet-footed midfielder, and it looks like the Lions have just copied and pasted from his Geelong profile when he went up there in 2015. You can make an argument in 2015 as a midfielder he probably did have a good amount of speed, but for 2019 as a forward then yeah he doesn't have good speed. He can rarely get away from a defender.

I'm not saying you're racist, just my opinion about how easy stereotypes and comparisons are made when evaluating players.

Yep, and I never tried to imply he's lightning quick by any stretch, but I still think "has good speed" is a fair comment IMO.

Just reckon you possibly need to be a little careful when accusing people of racially stereotyping simply because you have a different opinion on a certain players attributes.

yeah, wrong call @DeeSpencer

If he was serious about his footy he would have shed a few kg's by now

Such an indictment on the lack of quality and depth in our list compared to Brisbane’s that we would even consider a player like this. 

Lions moving them out. 

Some posters looking at bringing them in. 

On 9/17/2019 at 7:02 PM, Lord Nev said:

Also, you said:

"This is also a seriously quick Geelong line up. Probably quicker they even need because they'll look to introduce Rivers, Christensen, Enright and maybe a couple of others in for finals who aren't in the side but it's important to have the speed and run to keep up."

 

That post actually backs up what he is saying. Unless you think Rivers and Enright were quick also?

5 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Such an indictment on the lack of quality and depth in our list compared to Brisbane’s that we would even consider a player like this. 

Lions moving them out. 

Some posters looking at bringing them in. 

 

Just now, Watts the matter said:

That post actually backs up what he is saying. Unless you think Rivers and Enright were quick also?

Perhaps read my reply after that post mate.

2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Maybe neither of us should read too much into that because 12 months ago it was effectively the other way around. 

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

Maybe neither of us should read too much into that because 12 months ago it was effectively the other way around. 

Yeah far enough. I'm not in a panic about our list, but I just think not every recruit is "sexy" and we need to improve our list all over, including our depth. Tends to be a standard response on social/forums to shoot down ideas if they're not a chance for the Brownlow. (Not saying that's what you were doing btw, just a general comment).

Don't think Christensen will come back to Victoria, it may not be safe for him to do so.