On 6/6/2019 at 3:13 PM, Redleg said:

Spoke to a marathon runner today, who is a Dees fan and he believes it is to do with fitness.

We tire late in games and allow teams to run over us, without much pressure and the lack of fitness also affects our kicking for goal.

Spoke to a former athlete today, whose father was a world champion runner and he agrees with my other mate, that it is most likely a fitness issue.

Easily scored goals in the second half of games,  together with poor kicking from us, suggests tiring players.

Injuries of course also affect the team and then a loss of confidence, that can run through the side, does as well.

What I still can't come to grips with, is the total lack of ability to pass a ball accurately by hand or foot and to mark it, even early in games.

 

Edited June 13, 20195 yr by Redleg

I reckon we should base game plan on the philosophy that 'If you kick enough points then you don't need to kick goals' 

26 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Spoke to a former athlete today, whose father was a world champion runner and he agrees with my other mate, that it is most likely a fitness issue.

Easily scored goals in the second half of games,  together with poor kicking from us, suggests tiring players.

Injuries of course also affect the team and then a loss of confidence, that can run through the side, does as well.

What I still can't come to grips with, is the total lack of ability to pass a ball accurately by hand or foot and to mark it, even early in games.

 

No doubt fitness affects all facets of the game. But also interesting to note that our 2019 Disp eff is down to 53% (cf 59% for 2018)...low efficiency means missing marks, handballs etc. and generally running around like a headless chook, which would tire out the fitest of us...

53 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Spoke to a former athlete today, whose father was a world champion runner and he agrees with my other mate, that it is most likely a fitness issue.

Easily scored goals in the second half of games,  together with poor kicking from us, suggests tiring players.

Certainly something in that.

The last 6 weeks worth of last quarters:

Hawthorn - 4.0

GC - 4.0

WC - 6.1

GWS 2.1 (Disregard this game as were never in it and the only game in this 6 week cycle we were out scored)

Adel 5.2

Coll 4.0

 

We have conceded 25.4 in the last quarters in our previous 6 games!!! That's disgusting.

 

Edited June 13, 20195 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

Games naturally open up in the last quarter, unless one team with the lead sits back and plays very conservatively. 

Once the game is open midfield transition and one on one defending becomes vital and they are areas we struggle in. 

The one on one defending should improve now we’ve got quality defenders back, although we’ll still miss Nev. 

The midfield transition has improved since the start of the year but is unlikely to reach a high level this season. 

On 06/06/2019 at 5:31 AM, Gorgoroth said:

If we kicked straight ourselves and forced scoreboard pressure onto opposition then that also would make a factor to how well they are scoring.

And the disconnect between our midfield and our forward line along with a dysfuntional forward line combined with a poor conversion rate means an undermanned backline is then under seige

Cause and effect.

The above happened right throughout the 70's & 80's (with our team) with exactly the same problem (although our conversion rate was reasonable back then)

And as soon as we recruited some decent forwards onto the list we started playing finals. 

With everyone fit and firing the backline & midfield is shored up but now we have a major issue with our forward line.  And that issue needs fixing asap ... trading rather than drafting fixes things quicker (as we have done with the backline with the acquisitions of Lever & May)

Fix the forward line and fix the connect between the midfield & forward line and as a flow-on effect,  our backline will be less under seige and the opposition will find it harder to score. 

Edited June 13, 20195 yr by Macca

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Certainly something in that.

The last 6 weeks worth of last quarters:

Hawthorn - 4.0

GC - 4.0

WC - 6.1

GWS 2.1 (Disregard this game as were never in it and the only game in this 6 week cycle we were out scored)

Adel 5.2

Coll 4.0

 

We have conceded 25.4 in the last quarters in our previous 6 games!!! That's disgusting.

 

Need to consider in context, i.e. with the stats for what we've scored in the same final quarters:

• Hawthorn - 2.3
• GC - 3.4
• WC - 1.3
• GWS - 7.2
• Adelaide - 1.8
• Collingwood - 2.6

So we've scored 16.26. Which means we've generated more scoring shots in those final quarters than we've conceded.

I think the reasons have been previously touched on - our opponents are regularly generating shots on goal that are uncontested, or in open forward lines, or in the goal square, or directly in front. They're taking shots with confidence (generally leading us) and they're not under the sort of pressure they should be under.

We have also copped teams at their strongest with us weakened by injuries. Look at Crows, Eagles, Tigers, Saints and Dons sides recently for example.